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PHIL last night I did the update of beta 5 2.20. 

Wow it sounds trwllly good. Did you lower the digital noise floor somehow. The music has plenty of air but absolute silence behind the music. Core mode really is amazing and min mode is very good too.  No issues during install complelty seamless. The only thing I do during install is stop fid pro till after its back in core mode.  I always stop fid for updates as a precaution 

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AO is software engineering that has been thoroughly conceived with attention to usability. Installing and using AO is described in detail in the manual which gives confidence to try it even when you are not a computer expert. After carefully reading the manual and preparing the hardware/bios, AO was installed without major difficulty in Windows Server 2012R2, single pc, ultimate core mode along with Foobar, Jplay, BHE and Fidelizer Pro. Once you have used the service tool several times to go in and out of core mode, AO becomes straightforward to use. The sound quality does not disappoint. In fact it’s the best I’ve ever obtained from a computer. Digital glare has almost completely disappeared. Bad quality and old recordings (e.g. Tom Jones 24 Hours, The Beatles, respectively) were previously unlistenable because of treble harshness, whereas with AO, they have become listenable (although still not perfectly ‘analog’). Fidelizer Pro has a positive, additional impact. Audio drivers have a huge impact on sound quality too with asio, KS and jplay drivers sounding different. I can listen to the music now.

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His programs are tuely

the unsung hero of digital Audio.  

I have one server that is a quad boot.  

It has two kinds of solid state hard drives 

one being typical sata 3.  The other is sata 2 from PAUL pang. 

The Samsung sata 3 is Tri boot alone it has win 

10 pro , server 2012 , server 2016.  

I did it to hear what windows sounds best for me. The point is it’s a must have in digtal Audio hands down a big move towards analog relaxing type sound.  

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Does AO quit auto update on W 10?  If not, how to do this?

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Phil --- or whoever might read this and know. I have no idea if this is a common or rare issue, but I have one. I'll explain... 

 

I have two instances of Windows Server 2012 R2, each running on it's own SSD. One runs in GUI mode, for studio recording work, and the other one in Core mode, for music playback only. Both instances boot right up, but when I boot into the Core mode instance, I've somehow lost both keyboard and mouse control, which, for all intents and purposes, turns my computer into a rather expensive door stop. I have to force a hard boot (press and hold the power button) to get out of that instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 / AO Core mode. 

 

My mouse and keyboard work just fine on the AO GUI mode SSD, as they do from a third OS on a third SSD running Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, which is used for everyday, goofing around stuff. It's ONLY the AO Core mode instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 that lacks keyboard and mouse control, which USED to work flawlessly. 

 

And NO; I did NOT change or swap out either the keyboard OR the mouse when this issue first appeared, OR switch them to different USB ports, OR change anything in the BIOS. Subsequent to the appearance of this issue, I have tried swapping them both out with spares. No difference; meaning neither works no matter which keyboard or mouse I plug in (I have several spares of each). Both (in fact ALL) of my keyboards and mice are USB, and they ALL work perfectly from any other OS and/or computer, of which I have four. 

 

I can access the file system on the SSD that runs Windows Server 2012 R2 and AO in Core mode from any other instance of an OS; either Windows 10 or Windows Server 2012 R2 running AO in GUI mode. I just can't do anything once I boot into the instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 running AO in Core mode. The keyboard doesn't work and the mouse doesn't work. It's kind of hard (make that impossible) to do ANYTHING from within ANY OS without keyboard and mouse control. 

 

This isn't really a show stopper for me, and although the non-responsive instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 running AO in Core mode is my PREFERRED music listening platform, I can still boot to either one of the other SSDs and listen to music.

 

Also, I just purchased Windows Server 2016, and although I hadn't planned on upgrading to it any time soon, I may HAVE to at this point, just to get AO Core mode back. I DON'T want to have to reinstall Windows Server 2012 R2 again, as I spent a LOT of time optimizing and customizing the AO Core mode instance (both the OS and AO). If I HAVE to start from scratch, I'd much rather do that with Windows Server 2016, although I don't really want to do that just yet.

 

Anyway, I'm pretty much at my whits (or lack thereof) end on this one and would greatly appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

 

Big AL

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22 hours ago, Gareth said:

AO is software engineering that has been thoroughly conceived with attention to usability. Installing and using AO is described in detail in the manual which gives confidence to try it even when you are not a computer expert. After carefully reading the manual and preparing the hardware/bios, AO was installed without major difficulty in Windows Server 2012R2, single pc, ultimate core mode along with Foobar, Jplay, BHE and Fidelizer Pro. Once you have used the service tool several times to go in and out of core mode, AO becomes straightforward to use. The sound quality does not disappoint. In fact it’s the best I’ve ever obtained from a computer. Digital glare has almost completely disappeared. Bad quality and old recordings (e.g. Tom Jones 24 Hours, The Beatles, respectively) were previously unlistenable because of treble harshness, whereas with AO, they have become listenable (although still not perfectly ‘analog’). Fidelizer Pro has a positive, additional impact. Audio drivers have a huge impact on sound quality too with asio, KS and jplay drivers sounding different. I can listen to the music now.

 

Hello Gareth

 

Thank you very much for these kind words and taking your time to post them over here, much appreciated! :)

 

Best,

AudioPhil

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18 hours ago, ALRAINBOW said:

His programs are tuely

the unsung hero of digital Audio.  

I have one server that is a quad boot.  

It has two kinds of solid state hard drives 

one being typical sata 3.  The other is sata 2 from PAUL pang. 

The Samsung sata 3 is Tri boot alone it has win 

10 pro , server 2012 , server 2016.  

I did it to hear what windows sounds best for me. The point is it’s a must have in digtal Audio hands down a big move towards analog relaxing type sound.  

 

Hello Alrainbow

 

Thank you too for this comment, we are very happy to read this and also to have you on board in the AO family since such a long time! :)

 

Take care,

AudioPhil

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2 hours ago, Forehaven said:

Does AO quit auto update on W 10?  If not, how to do this?

 

Hello Forehaven

 

You mean Windows Updates? If so, yes, AO does disable them. If you need to get new updates, simply do a reset via ServiceTool, then do all your maintenance tasks (like windows updates). In the end just do a full run with AO again and you are set!

 

Best,

AudioPhil

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57 minutes ago, Big AL said:

My mouse and keyboard work just fine on the AO GUI mode SSD, as they do from a third OS on a third SSD running Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, which is used for everyday, goofing around stuff. It's ONLY the AO Core mode instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 that lacks keyboard and mouse control, which USED to work flawlessly.

 

Hey Big Al

 

Well... AO does not disable mouse and/or keyboard, that wouldn't be too smart.

 

Is it possible that you also use JPLAY in Hibernation mode? This would cause such a behavior as long as music is played.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

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5 hours ago, AudioPhil said:

 

Hey Big Al

 

Well... AO does not disable mouse and/or keyboard, that wouldn't be too smart.

 

Is it possible that you also use JPLAY in Hibernation mode? This would cause such a behavior as long as music is played.

 

Best,

AudioPhil

Hi Phil,

 

I wasn't (or don't think I was) implying that it was an AO issue at all. I'm just wondering if there's something I can do, via one of the other OS's (GUI mode Server 2012 R2 or Windows 10) to reset or 'fix' the Core mode installation. Maybe some file I can edit or delete to get the OS (Core mode Server 2012 R2) OUT of Core mode so that Windows 'plug 'n play' can (maybe) get my mouse and keyboard working again? 

 

Like I said, I'm at a loss as to what to do when I can't do anything without a working keyboard and mouse. Just taking a stab in the dark here on this one. I guess my question should have been; is there some way to revert back to standard GUI mode externally, from another OS that has access to the Server 2012 R2 Core mode file system? That SSD just appears as another drive from within one of the other two OS's running on two other SSDs. 

 

AL

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Hello AL

 

What about using RDP (Remote Desktop) to control the machine over LAN? Thats what i actually do with my headless audiopc.

 

best,

AudioPhil

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7 minutes ago, AudioPhil said:

Hello AL

 

What about using RDP (Remote Desktop) to control the machine over LAN? Thats what i actually do with my headless audiopc.

 

best,

AudioPhil

Hi Phil,

 

Great idea, but how do I install/configure RDP on an OS without keyboard and mouse control of that OS? RDP is disabled, since I had no use for it when it was running normally (i.e. with keyboard and mouse control). As a reminder, I did NOTHING to this computer or the instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 or AO, either physically (no devices swapped in or out, no devices switched to other USB ports, etc.) or system configuration wise; no OS or BIOS tweaks or installs or uninstalls of any software. Nothing changed, either in hardware or software. One day I had keyboard and mouse control and the next day it did not. 

 

To respond to your original question about JPLAY and hibernation mode, I don't even have JPlay installed and I ALWAYS disable hibernation mode on ALL my computers (laptops included). I've never trusted it and it ALWAYS and eventually screws up a system. 

 

Is there a file within the AO installation or within Windows Server 2012 R2 that I can either edit or delete to either force it OUT of Core mode and back into GUI mode? 

 

AL

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43 minutes ago, Big AL said:

Great idea, but how do I install/configure RDP on an OS without keyboard and mouse control of that OS?

 

Does this still work for you?

 

Using Device Manager Remotely
http://www.briandesmond.com/blog/using-device-manager-remotely

 

If not, I hope that you didn't disable Remote Registry or block that with firewall

 

How to Remotely Enable and Disable (RDP) Remote Desktop
https://www.interfacett.com/blogs/how-to-remotely-enable-and-disable-rdp-remote-desktop/

 

How to Turn on Remote Desktop Using Regedit
https://www.wikihow.com/Turn-on-Remote-Desktop-Using-Regedit

 

Enable Remote Desktop remotely by using remote registry
http://silentcrash.com/2013/07/enable-remote-desktop-remotely-by-using-the-registry/

 

Q: How can I remotely enable Remote Desktop Services on a remote server?
http://windowsitpro.com/article/systems-management/remotely-enable-remote-desktop-services-142480


If that were no go, you could manually load the registry hive (C:\Windows\System32\config\SOFTWARE) from another instance of Windows Server 2012 R2 and then take a look at this key

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\RemoteRegistry

 

Other than that, we could also try PsExec and VNC Server

 

PsExec - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/psexec

 

Using psexec to run WinVNC
http://forum.ultravnc.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29873

 

TightVNC portable (version 1.3.10)
http://rammichael.com/tightvnc-portable-version-1-3-10

 

Tight VNC Server Portable 2.7.10 Dev Test 1
https://portableapps.com/node/38793

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You could enable rdp via remote powershell, winrs, psexec or similar and registry edits, but thats a bit complicated to explain how exactly to do that.

 

have a look: http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/a/windows/archive/server-hacks-remote-desktop.html

 

Did you try other USB ports?

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50 minutes ago, AudioPhil said:

You could enable rdp via remote powershell, winrs, psexec or similar and registry edits, but thats a bit complicated to explain how exactly to do that.

 

have a look: http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/a/windows/archive/server-hacks-remote-desktop.html

 

Did you try other USB ports?

Hi Phil,

 

Yes, I tried other ports, both built-in and ports in an external USB 6-port hub, along with several spare keyboards and mice. No change. It's a doorstop when I boot to that SSD. 

 

ALL of the NON-music related roles and services (remote access, RDP, remote registry, remote desktop, HTTP, FTP, etc.) are disabled. Even the NIC is disabled. There isn't any way to remotely log into the system at all, given that it was configured for music playback ONLY and nothing else. Virtually every non-music related service and role is disabled. For all intents and purposes, it's a standalone, music player and nothing else. It's not even plugged into my LAN, since I don't really need Internet or LAN access from my studio computer, which is what it is. I have three other computers in my office I use for those and other non-music related tasks. 

 

It would appear that I am at the point where scrubbing the SSD and installing Windows Server 2016 is my only option. C'est la vie. Thanks for all the suggestions but, as I feared would be the case, it's time to upgrade that SSD to Server 2016. Not what I wanted to do this weekend, but obviously, it's time. 

 

AL

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A situation like this would require something like ERD Registry Editor since we could manually re-enable those disabled items

 

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That's part of Microsoft Diagnostics and Recovery Toolset from Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack, simply do a search on MSDaRT81.msi and you'll find this

 

https://userscloud.com/tlejupekdmr8

 

About DaRT 8.1
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-desktop-optimization-pack/dart-v8/about-dart-81

 

How to Create a Boot CD for MSDaRT 6.5
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee460919.aspx

 

ERD Commander in MSDaRT 6.5
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee460909.aspx

 

Overview of Microsoft Diagnostics and Recovery Toolset
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee532075.aspx

 

Alternatively, we could also try this instead

 

Offline Windows Password & Registry Editor, Bootdisk / CD
https://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html

https://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/

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JRiver is developing a 64bit version
How will it work on Win 2012r2 Core

 

From Change log
23.0.70 (10/6/2017)

1. Changed: When loading tracks for album memory playback, a wait message will display if it takes more than one second.

Has not installed this 64bit version, as it is still only beta version.

 

Will I have trouble if the message comes?

 

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