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A few weeks ago I picked up a used set of the original Shunyata Dark Field elevators for a good price. I threw placed them under my MIT speaker cables but didn't notice much of a difference. I didn't try to listen for a difference as it was just too hot in my listening room. I figured I would wait until it cooled off to do some comparisons.

 

On Saturday I packed them off and sent them off to a friend to evaluate. I was surprised to find that I missed them. The sound had degraded subtly, but it was enough for me to be bothered.

 

I think getting speaker cables off the floor is worth trying. Not sure if one needs to spend extra bucks for specialized elevators, but I don't regret forking out for the Shunyata elevators.


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Indirectly I would say yes. Much easier to keep power, signal, and speakers wires separate. Helps keep them from getting dirty. Also, can help reduce cable stress if the cable is sagging or getting kinked and causing mechanical stress on the connectors.

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They never worked for me. If you want some, use your imagination and build your on.


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They never worked for me. If you want some, use your imagination and build your on.

 

I have found that the ideal is to have someone, like a kid (not too tall) stand slightly behind and between the speakers and hold the speaker cables, one in each hand, during the listening session. This has the added advantage of providing some natural, organic room dampening. Ideally they should be wearing white gloves so as to not get any organic contaminants on the actual cable. Ask them not to breathe too heavily while performing this function as that can be distracting, particularly during the more delicate, quiet sections.

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I have found that the ideal is to have someone, like a kid (not too tall) stand slightly behind and between the speakers and hold the speaker cables, one in each hand, during the listening session. This has the added advantage of providing some natural, organic room dampening. Ideally they should be wearing white gloves so as to not get any organic contaminants on the actual cable. Ask them not to breathe too heavily while performing this function as that can be distracting, particularly during the more delicate, quiet sections.

 

Organic cotton is a must for the gloves (and all clothing honestly). Polyester fibers enhance and amplify RFI.

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Organic cotton is a must for the gloves (and all clothing honestly). Polyester fibers enhance and amplify RFI.

 

Excellent point - thanks!!

 

I did not know that.

 

Also, whenever listening to music seriously, it is critical to wear rubber sole shoes only, otherwise, there may be EMI transference.

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I have heard toilet paper rolls make good lifters. And you never know when you might need extra TP!!


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I think we have invested more in these than in audio by about a factor of 10.

 

As in credit card lifters. Oy! I believe you are correct even if the factor of 10 has a larger weight-size ;>}

 

Enjoy the music,

Richard

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Excellent point - thanks!!

 

I did not know that.

 

Also, whenever listening to music seriously, it is critical to wear rubber sole shoes only, otherwise, there may be EMI transference.

 

.. and NO jewelry.

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I have heard toilet paper rolls make good lifters. And you never know when you might need extra TP!!

 

Or use depleted ones (very green!).

 

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No children. These are my toys in the house. Plays well with others. ;>}

 

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You have all the fun toys!

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Or use depleted ones (very green!).]

 

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Available in colors? ;>}

 

Enjoy the music,

Richard

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Music is fun!

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Not a big fan of either aesthetically speaking... Despite all of the snarky sarcasm, they do help to keep the pet hair out of the speaker wire sheaths and keep the cables separated. I love em just for the routing if for nothing else.


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Not a big fan of either aesthetically speaking... Despite all of the snarky sarcasm, they do help to keep the pet hair out of the speaker wire sheaths and keep the cables separated. I love em just for the routing if for nothing else.

 

Just havin' a bit of fun :) (The forum in general has been so effin serious lately.)

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True that! Carry on...

 

Just havin' a bit of fun :) (The forum in general has been so effin serious lately.)

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No children. These are my toys in the house. Plays well with others. ;>}

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]7073[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]7074[/ATTACH]

 

Those somehow remind me of the catch cables for arresting aircraft on an aircraft carrier. Ghostrider, you are inbound, let me know when the cable trips you up. Of course with "The Danger Zone" playing in the background.


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Perhaps if you lived in an apartment, there could be mains cabling in the ceiling immediately below ?


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I use rather thick, low impedance speaker cables on stands. They widen the soundstage, but tend to obliterate the center image. This is the left channel, left channel.

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