mav52 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I own a D1 and a A1 and there is no way they are bright. I guess it depends on what your Lumin is connected to. The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Agreed. "Bright" is not a term I would apply to either the A1 I used to own or the S1 I've got now. BTW, is that a '67 427 c.i. in your Avatar? I have a yellow '67 427 myself. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
wklie Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Firmware 8.01 is released. Roon users please update Roon to Build 209 or later. The Roon app Build 209 should show up in a few days. Roon 30-day trial: https://www.nativedsd.com/information/roon Roon can be integrated with Tidal, Tidal 60-day trial: http://tidal.com/masters Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
fabiodeluca Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Firmware 8.01 is released. Roon users please update Roon to Build 209 or later. The Roon app Build 209 should show up in a few days. Roon 30-day trial: https://www.nativedsd.com/information/roon Roon can be integrated with Tidal, Tidal 60-day trial: http://tidal.com/masters Hi Peter, good news! Is it reasonable to think that 8.01 and 7.09 versions should sound the same? (I do not use Roon server at the moment) Regards Fabio Link to comment
wklie Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 They should sound the same. If people worry about the additional load to the CPU, the setting LUMIN Streaming can be disabled, which will disable both AirPlay and RAAT. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I have been experiencing an oddity with sound being produced by my Lumin S1. I'll call it "pre-sound" and it sounds very much like "tape bleed" that I used to experience long ago when using reel-to-reel tapes that were stored for extended periods of time and the magnetic information stored on subsequent layers of the tape would bleed onto the next one. For instance, with music ripped from a particular SACD when one song ends and you hit the gap of silence between songs there can be heard a very low level copy of the initial part of the next song before the normal level song starts. This phenomenon can't be heard when playing the SACD directly from the Oppo player that I use. I can't imagine it being the Lumin but, possibly, a result of the ripping process? Weird, huh? Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
wklie Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 My guess is it might be related to the mastering of the SACD. Please try another DSD album from a different company to see if you hear the same. Since Lumin plays music in the playlist in a gapless manner, please also insert non-DSD music from a different album in between the SACD tracks, see if you still hear those "low level" music content. BlueSkyy 1 Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
George Hincapie Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 D1 went back. Too bright to my ears etc. Keeping the Aries Femto. I really wanted the D1 to be the solution; it would have freed up a grand for a start, but it just isn't. Link to comment
kelly200269 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 D1 went back. Too bright to my ears etc. Keeping the Aries Femto. I really wanted the D1 to be the solution; it would have freed up a grand for a start, but it just isn't. Everyone to their own, I suppose...? lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 My guess is it might be related to the mastering of the SACD. Please try another DSD album from a different company to see if you hear the same.Since Lumin plays music in the playlist in a gapless manner, please also insert non-DSD music from a different album in between the SACD tracks, see if you still hear those "low level" music content. Thanks wklie. My issue appears to be limited to this SACD. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
George Hincapie Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Everyone to their own, I suppose...? lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Of course, goodness I hope that didn't come across the wrong way. I really wanted it to work, but it didn't. A presentation thing for me. I'd like to try the U1 and S1, but both are more than twice the price of my Aries. Link to comment
kelly200269 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Of course, goodness I hope that didn't come across the wrong way. I really wanted it to work, but it didn't. A presentation thing for me. No, of course not ;-) It's just that I have never experienced any excess brightness from my D1. Clarity and transparency, yes. But not brightness. But I suppose everyone's systems are different, and synergy plays a part I suppose. The ONLY problem I have with my D1, is that it makes listening to any other digital source in my system almost impossible. I used to absolutely love listening to my (very good) SACD player, but the D1 absolutely trounces it. Listening to the D1, you feel like you're 'there' in the music, whereas other digital sources sound artificial by comparison. I'm sorry that the D1 didn't work out for you. I'm now wondering how much better an A1 or S1 would be in my system, but I'm scared I would 'crack' if I heard one! lol Link to comment
msr Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I am a very happy owner of T1 and I agree with you: clarity, not brightness! I my system, of course. Marcelo Link to comment
wklie Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 My guess is it might be related to the mastering of the SACD. I wonder why this post got a dislike, especially when this turns out to be more or less correct. BlueSkyy 1 Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
msr Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 NEW firmware today. What are the changes? Link to comment
wklie Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 LUMIN - Firmware Release Notes Version 8.02 (Mar 16, 2017) Enhancement and Fix: Auto stop Roon playback in order to apply re-sampling setting changes. Other minor bug fix. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 3/15/2017 at 9:50 AM, wklie said: I wonder why this post got a dislike, especially when this turns out to be more or less correct. I don't know and hope it wasn't me. Your idea was spot on, dead-on-balls accurate. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
fabiodeluca Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Great new feature on new Lumin app release (MQA sticker). Thanks Peter! Now that Lumin demonstrated that it is feasible putting a sticker on an album cover to identify the sampling/bit features, that should be also feasible for all the other tracks and albums stored in NAS, etc...which I am requiring to Peter/Lumin since many many time...;-) Link to comment
Hicks Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Hi! I'm pretty new in this forom. Do you know if LUMIN player's software can be restored to the previous version? I use my player with "Volume control on" because it is connected to an activespeaker system, thus the volume can be controlled only through LUMIN. The new software automatically turns this function to "Off". Even if I turn it back "On" after one usage the software turns it "Off" automatically again... and I cannot use the "+" and "-" functions of the app. Setup: D1 (8.02) - Minimserver iPad Mini (9.3.5, only for the Lumin app, 6.0.7) What do you think is it the D1 or the LUMIN app's fault? Many thanks for your help! Link to comment
AZ Craig Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Good to know as I use the volume control from time to time as a whole house remote. Guess I will stay on 6.0.6 until this is resolved. Music server: Two Lumin L1 music servers Digital to Analog Converter(s): Lumin S1, two D1s and a D2 Amplifier(s): Peachtree Audio Grand Integrated Loudspeakers: Martin Logan Summit X Headphones: Stax SR-009 Headphone Amplifier(s): Woo Audio WES Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 For what it's worth, I am using: S1 (8.02) - JRiver iPad Air (10.2.1 and Lumin app 6.0.7) I experience the system automatically turning the volume control function off by itself. The volume control "switch" does switch off by itself. When using Linn Kazoo, however, the volume control works properly. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
Hicks Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I tried an iPhone with the 6.0.6 Lumin app and works perfect. So the problem is with old iPad Mini1 (only iOS 9) and the new Lumin 6.0.7 app. Link to comment
Roy Boy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I noticed that the Lumin website now has a statement of intent to support MQA and Spotify under the "Streaming" section . This is great news. http://www.luminmusic.com/streaming-services.html "LUMIN network music players can automatically perform Core Decoding and Hardware Rendering of MQA-encoded streams to get the maximum available Hi-Res music data (up to 24-bit 384kHz)." Link to comment
erniejade Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I just went to the site and read it. It sounds like mqa is right now, not future. On a side note, anyone who does the update, it enables the roon. If your not using roon, turn it off. I noticed a sound difference with it on and off. Den: Kef LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Lumin D1, Cayin SCD50T, Jolida D9, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 7 IC Livingroom: T+A PA1530 r Integrated Amplifier, Innous Zen MKIII, L.K.S audio MH Da004, Tyler Acoustics Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal IC, Wireworld Eclipse Silver 8 Speaker cable. Link to comment
wklie Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 18 hours ago, Hicks said: I use my player with "Volume control on" because it is connected to an activespeaker system, thus the volume can be controlled only through LUMIN. The new software automatically turns this function to "Off". Sorry about the bug with app 6.0.7. We have submitted app 6.0.8 to App Store for approval on March 25. Meanwhile, please use Esoteric Sound Stream app (which is almost the same thing) if you need volume control, before the Lumin app update becomes available. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
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