LUMIN - Audiophile Network Music Player

[wklie]

With the L1, there is only one to copy files to the L1 - by connecting a USB cable to the computer and do a file copy over USB.  Once it's completed, safely eject the L1 USB HDD, then disconnect the USB cable.  The L1 should turn itself into a network (UPnP) library.

[wklie]

As we are working on supporting Radio Paradise FLAC, are there any other free FLAC radio stations that Lumin users are interested in?

[Cebolla]

Hires Audio Online's well maintained list (last updated 08/08/2021) containing most (~40), if not all, of the existing FLAC internet radio streams should hopefully help in that decision:

https://www.hiresaudio.online/cd-quality-internet-radio

[ddude003]

Would it be possible to allow us users to enter our own "Station Name" and "URL"?  A list limit of 10 or 20 would do nicely...

 

By the way...  Thank you for all of your excellent support!!!

[wklie]

8 hours ago, ddude003 said:

Would it be possible to allow us users to enter our own "Station Name" and "URL"?  A list limit of 10 or 20 would do nicely...

 

For AAC/MP3 radio stations, you may enter a URL via TuneIn custom URL function from TuneIn mobile apps (but not web or desktop app).

[One and a half]

Updates

 

Lumin App on Android. Oh, what a bother, takes about 10s to boot up, screen is not populated. Finds Minimserver library, but not the U1.

Vanishes from the screen, phone goes to home page. Try again, still can't find U1. iOS iPad was the last controller, works fine.

 

Android phone Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 5G, Model SM-N976B, Android Version 11, security level July-01-2021.

 

Minimwatch- Every now and again minimwatch would go grey. Switched off IPV6 protocol on client machines and Server. Now is behaving better.

Adding new albums: Still taking too long, about 20-40 minutes to add new albums, usually 2-4 albums daily, using update Music Library. Rescan takes less than 20s.

[wklie]

That's unexpected.  I think one of my coworkers use a Samsung S10 (or S20, need to verify and did not experience the problem of not finding the Lumin player.

 

Please turn off IPv6.  In Roon forum there are several reports that IPv6 caused some problems.

[ddude003]

17 hours ago, wklie said:

 

For AAC/MP3 radio stations, you may enter a URL via TuneIn custom URL function from TuneIn mobile apps (but not web or desktop app).

I am well aware of TuneIn and its shortcomings...  And I still believe that it would be nice to directly enter a handful of custom URLs instead of asking you to hardcode them into an app, be them AAC/MP3 or FLAC...

[wklie]

I confirm that my coworker is using a Samsung S10 Android 11, it can see the Lumin players we have.

 

Another new user has Samsung Note 20 Ultra 5G Android 11, S21 5G Android 11, and Tab S2 SM-T813 Android 7.  All can see the Lumin player he has.

 

[doublebasshead]

Hi Peter

 

I see my iphone and ipad have updated to 7.0.5 which gives the great option of putting the controls at the bottom of the screen for the iphone. Unfortunately I have lost the ability to pause radio. The pause button has disappeared. I deleted and reinstalled the app but no dice. Any ideas?

 

(you may already be aware of this bug and in that case my apologies, happy to wait for the fix)

[wklie]

Temporary workarounds:
1. Please use Lumin Android app, if you have an Android device
2. Please use Esoteric Sound Stream app

Sorry about the trouble.

[wklie]

Any Jazz Groove Premium subscriber here?

[wklie]

@doublebasshead We have submitted a fixed iOS app update to App Store, waiting for approval.

[wklie]

iOS users please update the Lumin app to 7.0.6

[One and a half]

Updates to listening mechanisms.

 

Yes, IPV6 switched off improves the actual on time of Minimserver. However all is not good with Minimserver and the iOS Lumin app even before the current drama. To add *two* albums took close to 3 hours to add, this is update music library. Rescan Minimserver takes only a few seconds, but dragging the albums in is another story. Had enough of the BS. Minimserver is stood down. For fun, installed fidata, thank goodness it's free, it can only select artists from AAA to ED, that's it. Can't find any more. Useless, not recommended.

 

I do have a license for Jriver 27 so installed that on the music server, and the JRemote on the iPad. Music to the Lumin is straight through, works at all sample rates through the U1 to DSD128. Sound height is pretty good. Only a few clicks from the relay on sample rate change, but on album play, there's no relay clicks from the DAC. Easy to find music, and play, not that fond of playlists, just play from the album or track.  Still early days and getting used to the sound.

 

Not going to recommend JRiver as such since the management, like Roon, is staffed with bovver boys, but musically it works, and is the least dramatic, compared to Roon or other players such as....

 

Audirvana is just too clunky and paying money for something that doesn't work, and waiting that it will work out is not my idea of enjoyment .

 

HQPlayer doesn't work for DLNA devices, it's out of contention, and its interface is a pig to work with regard to select music, and not going to mention the mess with selecting filters, modulators and all the other necessary learning that need to be completed. Just *too hard*. 

[BlueSkyy]

7 hours ago, One and a half said:

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, One and a half said:

Not going to recommend JRiver as such since the management, like Roon, is staffed with bovver boys, but musically it works, and is the least dramatic, compared to Roon or other players such as....

 

I've used JRIver for many years and will probably continue to do so.  BTW, what's a "bovver boy"?

[Ropet]

7 hours ago, BlueSkyy said:

BTW, what's a "bovver boy"?

According to Lexico, Oxford:

• A young man, especially a member of a skinhead gang, who takes part in violent criminal activities; a hooligan; (later more generally) a man perceived as tough or aggressive.

[BlueSkyy]

2 minutes ago, Ropet said:

According to Lexico, Oxford:

• A young man, especially a member of a skinhead gang, who takes part in violent criminal activities; a hooligan; (later more generally) a man perceived as tough or aggressive.

Oh my!

[Ropet]

15 hours ago, One and a half said:

However all is not good with Minimserver and the iOS Lumin app even before the current drama. To add *two* albums took close to 3 hours

It sounds more that something else is wrong. If Minimserver works like you say, it should be widely known. I have run both Minimserver and Minimserver 2 in both laptops and in NAS (Synology) for quite some time using iOS for the Lumin app. Upload of a new album over the network takes few seconds 100 mbits/sec. I have never encounted what you describe. My pieces of advce is that you contact Minimservers helpdesk. They are very helpful and replies normally comes within 24 hours.

[One and a half]

2 hours ago, Ropet said:

It sounds more that something else is wrong. If Minimserver works like you say, it should be widely known. I have run both Minimserver and Minimserver 2 in both laptops and in NAS (Synology) for quite some time using iOS for the Lumin app. Upload of a new album over the network takes few seconds 100 mbits/sec. I have never encounted what you describe. My pieces of advce is that you contact Minimservers helpdesk. They are very helpful and replies normally comes within 24 hours.

Thanks for the note. I wish it was simpler, the install of MiniMserver was default, other than to add the license in, and to advise where the media files are, that's it as far as the install went.

Much pi$$ing about was with Java, and letting that through the firewall, since each version of Java has a different folder for the version. The sooner Minimserver removes that overhead, the better.

Since the slow to index is shown at the Lumin end, that's where the fault is? In any case, to record the settings, screen shots, and document the problem is, to me, a lot of work, for something that may not be Minimserver's problem. As an experiment, I use VLC to load Minimserver's files and it loads, but that's not how to listen to music, it's easier using Explorer and use a local player instead.

[One and a half]

2 hours ago, BlueSkyy said:

Oh my!

Yes, the word bovver is from an accented pronunciation of bother, "Guv, ya lookin' to cause 'bovver?'"

[BlueSkyy]

21 minutes ago, One and a half said:

Yes, the word bovver is from an accented pronunciation of bother, "Guv, ya lookin' to cause 'bovver?'"

Audiophilestyle is bloody fantastic on so many levels!

[rodrigaj]

I'm not sure I understand why such a term (bovver boys) would be used to describe the management of JRiver and ROON.

[wklie]

A beta firmware for Radio Paradise FLAC, and more than forty other free FLAC Radio stations, is now available. For those who wish to try it, please let me know and state your Lumin model.

 

Although it is not going to receive a major version number change, I feel this is an even more important functionality than the HiFi upgrade of a paid streaming service (that is supposed to launch before the end of the year), for the simple reason that they are free and therefore can be enjoyed by all Lumin users without paying for another subscription. Some free radio stations are donation-supported.

 

I'm listening to it while typing this.

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, wklie said:

A beta firmware for Radio Paradise FLAC, and more than forty other free FLAC Radio stations, is now available. For those who wish to try it, please let me know and state your Lumin model.

 

Although it is not going to receive a major version number change, I feel this is an even more important functionality than the HiFi upgrade of a paid streaming service (that is supposed to launch before the end of the year), for the simple reason that they are free and therefore can be enjoyed by all Lumin users without paying for another subscription. Some free radio stations are donation-supported.

 

I'm listening to it while typing this.

This is fantastic. 

 

You guys keep adding value to Lumin products, more so than almost any other manufacturer. Nice work!