LUMIN - Audiophile Network Music Player

[stefano_mbp]

@One and a half … just added few albums to my library … the Minimserver rescan did last 30/40 seconds as I told before and the Lumïn app update library more or less 8 minutes … actually not an overnight task …

… btw … be sure not to issue the Reload Library as it can be very long, the right command is Update Music Library that in normal condition should start automatically when new albums are detected by the app … and wait until the spinning wheel on the right of the Minimserver name in the app will disappear 

 

[One and a half]

21 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

@One and a half … just added few albums to my library … the Minimserver rescan did last 30/40 seconds as I told before and the Lumïn app update library more or less 8 minutes … actually not an overnight task …

… btw … be sure not to issue the Reload Library as it can be very long, the right command is Update Music Library that in normal condition should start automatically when new albums are detected by the app … and wait until the spinning wheel on the right of the Minimserver name in the app will disappear 

 

Yes, the spinning wheel are relations like with Chinese Communist Party, frosty.

[hpfish]

After firmware 14 update, my U1 mini SQ  was transformed, much more transparent and detail.   DSD files are great, but some CD might be little bright.  Overall I think it is positive,  I need to do more audition.   

[SQFIRST]

Running firmware V14 on X1. I am noticing that the Bitrate statistics, upper left in the Lumin app, is showing the Roon playback at a lower bitrate than if the same stream is played using the Lumin app or Tidal app. Not sure if this is a change but wanted to report it as I could not find any mention of this elsewhere. 

 

As I mentioned in previous post, loving the sound in V14! Noticeable improvement for Spotify as well.

[Ropet]

On 7/23/2021 at 6:20 PM, wklie said:

In case anyone hears a SQ difference after upgrading from firmware 13.x to 14.0, please report and state your model.

My sound memory is not long enough to remember any SQ differenses today. I did not expect any so I never made any special analysis after the update. If there are any, they are not huge.

 

If there är any changes made that are expected tog change the SQ, does connection type have influences on this, like AES/RCA coax versus USB?

 

Same question but linked to sources like Tidal, Qobuz or private library in a network? Are there any Lumin construction reasons that ought to or could give different SQ between the alternatives?

 

 

[wklie]

5 hours ago, SQFIRST said:

I am noticing that the Bitrate statistics, upper left in the Lumin app, is showing the Roon playback at a lower bitrate than if the same stream is played using the Lumin app or Tidal app.

 

Please ignore Lumin app display when you're playing from Roon.

[tcetin]

On 7/26/2021 at 4:22 AM, wklie said:

 

You cannot believe how many ISP over the whole world has non-working DNS servers at different times for the purpose of music streaming.  I have known this fact for years, I just don't know why.  If anybody knows, please enlighten me.

 

With firmware 14, you can revert to the router DNS server by typing #DNS in uppercase in the Lumin name field.  Power cycle the player 60 seconds later, then check the About of Lumin player again after reboot.

Hello, is it also possible revert from the router DNS to 8.8.8.8 after setting with #DNS ?

[wklie]

3 hours ago, tcetin said:

Hello, is it also possible revert from the router DNS to 8.8.8.8 after setting with #DNS ?

 

Please factory reset it.

[wklie]

On 7/27/2021 at 5:56 AM, Ropet said:

If there äre any changes made that are expected to change the SQ, does connection type have influences on this, like AES/RCA coax versus USB?

 

Same question but linked to sources like Tidal, Qobuz or private library in a network? Are there any Lumin construction reasons that ought to or could give different SQ between the alternatives?

 

Based on some reports received, it can make a subjective difference to all types of outputs.

 

Tidal / Qobuz / local NAS are done with the same http or https streaming.  RAAT, AirPlay, Spotify Connect, are all done differently.

[tcetin]

5 hours ago, wklie said:

 

Please factory reset it.

Ok, thanks..

[brw]

On 7/25/2021 at 6:22 PM, wklie said:

 

You cannot believe how many ISP over the whole world has non-working DNS servers at different times for the purpose of music streaming.  I have known this fact for years, I just don't know why.  If anybody knows, please enlighten me.

 

With firmware 14, you can revert to the router DNS server by typing #DNS in uppercase in the Lumin name field.  Power cycle the player 60 seconds later, then check the About of Lumin player again after reboot.

 

I believe you, however the evidence points to issues (bugs) in Lumin's IP networking implementation.

For example:

 

After typing #DNS in the Lumin name field, power cycle and check the About of my X1: DNS server is now indicated as router******.com which is my (Cisco) default router and internet gateway; 192.168.1.1 to local devices.

 

It should be 1.1.1.1 in accordance with the Static DNS 1 field in my router's DHCP configuration (as other devices see it).

 

Another quirk which debuted in Firmware 14:

 

Lumin X1 made its presence known for the first time on my (bridged) eero WiFi network. Interestingly, the app indicates Manufacturer as "Lumissil Microsystems".

 

Hope this is useful. Any assistance I can provide (e.g. test unreleased firmware or follow up privately) is sincerely offered.

 

[wklie]

6 hours ago, brw said:

After typing #DNS in the Lumin name field, power cycle and check the About of my X1: DNS server is now indicated as router******.com which is my (Cisco) default router and internet gateway; 192.168.1.1 to local devices.

 

It should be 1.1.1.1 in accordance with the Static DNS 1 field in my router's DHCP configuration (as other devices see it).

 

That's up to your router implementation.  The DHCP client in use by Lumin is standard, not modified.

 

Do you see 1.1.1.1 from Windows DHCP client?

 

The name is wrong, but it is not caused by us.  It is your router hard code name table not knowing us.

[pl_svn]

6 minutes ago, wklie said:

It is your router hard code name table

exactly

this is, in fact, how Fing identifies my U1 Mini:

 

[wklie]

 

3 hours ago, pl_svn said:

 

I'm actually surprised someone can correctly identify our company based on the network data.  Perhaps they show the UPnP information.

[The Computer Audiophile]

11 minutes ago, wklie said:

 

 

I'm actually surprised someone can correctly identify our company based on the network data.  Perhaps they show the UPnP information.

Lumissil Microsystems probably supplies your network interface?

[BlueSkyy]

My network makes reference to “World’s Best Music Player”.  My network apparently knows what’s what!

[wklie]

5 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Lumissil Microsystems probably supplies your network interface?

 

I was going to answer no, but I googled for 5 minutes, but am still not sure about it due to several acquisitions that may or may not be relevant.

[Mat]

How to play DSD on upnp Lumin U1 mini ?

my scan file is shown unknown .

thanks.

[wklie]

4 minutes ago, Mat said:

How to play DSD on upnp Lumin U1 mini ?

my scan file is shown unknown .

 

Please install MinimServer Free Edition.

[brw]

10 hours ago, wklie said:

 

Do you see 1.1.1.1 from Windows DHCP client?

 

The name is wrong, but it is not caused by us.  It is your router hard code name table not knowing us.

 

Yes indeed, both Mac and Windows DHCP clients display the expected IP and DNS settings. Please reference screenshots (below).

 

Lumin X1 with Firmware 14.1 (newly installed) shows DNS Server is router******.com – same as Mac "Search Domain" and Windows "Primary DNS suffix" fields.

 

Why does Lumin assign DNS Server differently than Mac and Windows?

[Mat]

6 hours ago, wklie said:

 

Please install MinimServer Free Edition.

I am using asus wifi router GT AX11000 AND A USB Hard disk.

Can i install minimserver on asus GT ax 11000 ?

[wklie]

Please plug the USB HDD into Windows or Mac then run MinimServer there.

 

DSD64 files on USB HDD can still be played if it is directly connected to a Lumin if it is in the correct .DSF format and properly tagged.

[The Computer Audiophile]

3 hours ago, brw said:

 

Yes indeed, both Mac and Windows DHCP clients display the expected IP and DNS settings. Please reference screenshots (below).

 

Lumin X1 with Firmware 14.1 (newly installed) shows DNS Server is router******.com – same as Mac "Search Domain" and Windows "Primary DNS suffix" fields.

 

Why does Lumin assign DNS Server differently than Mac and Windows?

That makes zero sense from a technical standpoint. You can’t have a DNS server be an FQDN because it wouldn’t be possible to look it up without a DNS server. 
 

Is it just resolving the name of your router? Yes, I understand your router is just the gateway, not the DNS server. 

[wklie]

I think I've found a display bug for the DNS server in this case - in this scenario it displays the domain suffix rather than the actual DNS server IP address.  I'll send brw a firmware fix.

[The Computer Audiophile]

14 minutes ago, wklie said:

I think I've found a display bug for the DNS server in this case - in this scenario it displays the domain suffix rather than the actual DNS server IP address.  I'll send brw a firmware fix.

But it's strange that his router isn't the DNS server that's being handed out to other clients. 1.1.1.1 doesn't have a domain suffix of router7d5010.com