vintageaxeman Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, wklie said: I do not encourage people to DIY the umbilical cord as it is difficult to make. Many years ago we also came across one that was supposedly professionally made but overheated. In another forum audiosensibility explained the component cost is 2/3 of the price, due to the high cost of OCC silver. We do not endorse third party accessories or cables. I fully agree, Peter, I would not recommend people thinking about making their own DIY cables either. It poses too much of a risk to the equipment. Link to comment
chungjh Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 How much SQ improvement are people getting by replacing the stock umbilical cord? Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, vintageaxeman said: I fully agree, Peter, I would not recommend people thinking about making their own DIY cables either. It poses too much of a risk to the equipment. But in one of your earlier posts you said you will stick to your own homebrew, DIY, cables. Maybe you are talking about other types of cables and not the Lumin umbilical? Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, chungjh said: How much SQ improvement are people getting by replacing the stock umbilical cord? Mine was noticeable but not earth shattering. Was it worth the nearly $2k I spent? Even I can't answer that at this point. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
vintageaxeman Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, chungjh said: How much SQ improvement are people getting by replacing the stock umbilical cord? Some minor changes. But everything is incremental by the time you’ve reached this point in your system. Link to comment
Roy Boy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I have an A1 and semi-recently replaced the stock power supply with a Kenny Lau along with his umbilical cord. I did find this to be a nice upgrade. I am wondering if the x-1 power supply offers any significant improvement for an A1 over the Kenny Lau. Has anyone tried that? Link to comment
wildsam Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Can the x1 psu be used with the u1 mini? Link to comment
Nicoben45 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The U1mini has a simple 12v power supply, when the U1 and friends has two different power inputs. So the U1mini can only be upgraded by an other psu that bring one 12v output. Good results at home with the Paul Hynes SR4t and home made dc cable. MSB Reference> Ypsilon Aelius 2 >Vivid G1 or Andra3 HQPlayer >Diretta DST>Holo May>Holo Serene>Kinki ex-m7>Leedh e2 glass or DIY (Davis/Heil). Link to comment
wklie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Mat said: Is this normal that on last 2 word display the brightness is dimmer comparing to the first word ? Yes, this fading is a feature. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
wklie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 12 hours ago, BlueSkyy said: But in one of your earlier posts you said you will stick to your own homebrew, DIY, cables. Maybe you are talking about other types of cables and not the Lumin umbilical? If I said I was using a DIY cable, that was probably the Gotham interconnects that were made by a part-time professional, not me, and the Gotham speaker cables made by myself. I am using something branded (cannot tell you which) and more costly to replace the Gotham interconnect (that is now used with my 2004 AV receiver, and with the age of it I think the relatively inexpensive cable actually is worth more than the market value of the receiver). And my Gotham speaker cable has recently been replaced by the Duelund Dual DCA12GA naked. Only after I replaced the original speaker cable I used for years did I find that I actually made it wrong in the first place. I am pleased with both cable upgrades. The Lumin umbilical cord is more difficult to make because, I believe, there are a lot of wires (with a certain gauge requirement) squeezed into relatively small connectors. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
wklie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 11 hours ago, wildsam said: Can the x1 psu be used with the u1 mini? No. The X1 PSU upgrade is only compatible with Lumin U1 (large) / S1 / A1 / T1. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
wklie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Roy Boy said: I have an A1 and semi-recently replaced the stock power supply with a Kenny Lau along with his umbilical cord. I did find this to be a nice upgrade. I am wondering if the x-1 power supply offers any significant improvement for an A1 over the Kenny Lau. Has anyone tried that? I recall reading several positive reports by users of S1 and U1. If you are willing to try a more neutral sound signature, you may also check out the T2. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
wklie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, wklie said: my Gotham speaker cable has recently been replaced by the Duelund Dual DCA12GA naked. Should have said "bare wire" instead of "naked". Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
atlerovik Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 7:44 AM, wklie said: We are working on Tidal Connect and Spotify HiFi, but these are not finished…. Any chance of a rough estimate for when this will be available? Link to comment
Mat Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 4/29/2021 at 8:27 AM, wklie said: Yes, this fading is a feature. Thanks. Link to comment
rodrigaj Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I wouldn't call chopping off - with or without fading - the title of a work, a "feature". But...whatever. (The display on the Lumin is a big bugaboo with me - I leave it entirely off.) "The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. Link to comment
BlueSkyy Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I leave my display off entirely as well but not because of the fading feature which I understand and actually like because it "bows out" to the track count and track timing circle on the right. I keep mine off because this sort of display technology is prone to "burn in" where segments that don't get used much begin to fade away permanently. I wish there was a maintenance function that you could invoke that would light the whole thing up so that the faded elements could be rejuvenated. Denafrips Terminator + DAC fed by a Denafrips GAIA DDC, HTPC running JRiver MC, iFi PRO iCAN Signature headphone amp, Marantz AV8805, OPPO BDP-105 for SACD ripping, Sony UBP-X100ES for watching and listening, McIntosh MC1201s Front L/R with Bryston powering the remaining 5 channels, B&W N-801s, B&W HTM-1 in Tiger Eye, B&W 801 IIIs on the sides and in the rear, JL-F212 sub, ReVOX PR-99Mk II, Rega P10 and Alpheta 3, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Amp, Audeze LCD-4 and LCD-XC, UE18 IEMs, Sony CD3000 rebuilt, Sony VPL-VW995ES laser projector, Joe Kane Affinity 120" screen, Cables: Cardas Clear Beyond speaker, Wireworld Platinum Elite 7 RCA, custom (by me) XLRs using affordable, quality parts 🙂 Link to comment
Mat Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 How long is the break in of Lumin U1 mini ? it’s been 3days , I find less bass comparing with MacBook Pro . Link to comment
thingswelike Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Mat said: How long is the break in of Lumin U1 mini ? it’s been 3days , I find less bass comparing with MacBook Pro . https://luminmusic.com/manual/running-in.html Mat 1 Associated with LUMIN - The Audiophile Network Music Player. Link to comment
Popular Post musicguy Posted May 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2021 lumin u1 mini break-in,. I ran my stock u1 for 1 week before I gave a good listen. I have a uptown audio Mac mini - with js-2 power supply. it took a week before my lumin u1 mini beat it. Now if you upgrade to a sbooster power supply. The u1 mini. really steps up to a huge improvement!! Bass is better soundstage, smoothness. many more area. But this all depends on your system. Im running a lumin u1 mini with sbootster. Best streaming sound I have ever had. m usicguy sonodynesrp205 and Mat 1 1 Link to comment
Mat Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, musicguy said: lumin u1 mini break-in,. I ran my stock u1 for 1 week before I gave a good listen. I have a uptown audio Mac mini - with js-2 power supply. it took a week before my lumin u1 mini beat it. Now if you upgrade to a sbooster power supply. The u1 mini. really steps up to a huge improvement!! Bass is better soundstage, smoothness. many more area. But this all depends on your system. Im running a lumin u1 mini with sbootster. Best streaming sound I have ever had. m usicguy Thanks, I like to upgrade to sbooster, but I don’t know where to buy in my country . I live in Jakarta- Indonesia . Link to comment
nikolaos1969 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 @wkliehi, I have noticed that during the upsampling from FLAC file (lumin u1 mini ) to DSD the sound diminishes and have to raise up the volume. Is that normal? Link to comment
wklie Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 That's related to how your DAC handles DSD. Peter Lie LUMIN Firmware Lead Link to comment
nikolaos1969 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, wklie said: That's related to how your DAC handles DSD. Do you consider it a problem of CXA81 amp/DAC ? Link to comment
pl_svn Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 6 hours ago, nikolaos1969 said: Do you consider it a problem of CXA81 amp/DAC ? no: DSD always plays 6db lower than PCM Qnap HS-264 NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a Keces P8 LPS) > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier > First Watt SIT 3 power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III headphones system: Cirrus 7 > Lumin U2 > Metrum Acoustics Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones Link to comment
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