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1 hour ago, blueninjasix said:

I finally managed to set up Raspbian buster lite on my USBridge Signature and download and install the armh Deb file. I'm using Ubuntu Studio on the other computer. My DAC is Chord Qutest. I only use PCM and upscale to 705. I still get loads of cracks and pops (more even than when I have Ropieexl loaded on the USBridge Signature).

I decided to try a different path and got a Pi 4. I installed Raspbian and enabled 64bit and undated kernel to aarch64. I can get the 32 bit  armhf Deb file (downloaded from Signalyst) to work perfectly with no cracks and pops.

My problem is trying to install the 64 bit package. There's a missing dependency called librasound2. The file exists in an armhf version but not arm64. Can anyone help please?

 

RasPi's before 4 had serious trouble with ethernet + USB combination.

 

In official Debian Buster repo there is certainly such package. But if armhf version works, don't worry too much about installing 64-bit version.

 

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1 hour ago, Miska said:

 

RasPi's before 4 had serious trouble with ethernet + USB combination.

 

In official Debian Buster repo there is certainly such package. But if armhf version works, don't worry too much about installing 64-bit version.

 

Thanks. The 32bit version is certainly working very well 👍

 

i5 7600 fanless pc running Ubuntu 22.04 and HQPlayer Desktop > Cisco switch > 10Gtek fibre network > Raspberry Pi4 HQPlayerNAA > IFi purifier 3 > SRC-DX > Chord Qutest > Jotunheim 2 preamplifier > Ncore monoblocks > KEF R5 speakers.

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I have HQPlayer desktop running on an iMac (trying out a demo).  I also have a MacBook Pro and would like to run NAA on it (with a USB connected exaSound e38).  I have downloaded the Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1.  How do I initiate the NAA on my Macbook?

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I can report a success today. I installed the 64 bit version of Ubuntu 20.04 server on my Raspberry Pi 4, together with the 64 bit version of NAA. It runs completely headless and sounds excellent

i5 7600 fanless pc running Ubuntu 22.04 and HQPlayer Desktop > Cisco switch > 10Gtek fibre network > Raspberry Pi4 HQPlayerNAA > IFi purifier 3 > SRC-DX > Chord Qutest > Jotunheim 2 preamplifier > Ncore monoblocks > KEF R5 speakers.

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On 5/8/2020 at 8:07 PM, Kurt said:

I have HQPlayer desktop running on an iMac (trying out a demo).  I also have a MacBook Pro and would like to run NAA on it (with a USB connected exaSound e38).  I have downloaded the Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1.  How do I initiate the NAA on my Macbook?

 

You can start it from terminal, it's a terminal application, not a regular application that you'd need to install. You just extract networkaudiod binary from the zip file and start it. Nothing else needed.

 

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Jussi, Below is a copy of a post I put in the Rendu support area of Sonore. This is really strange. It seems that the NAA can no longer recognize my Holo Spring 2 DAC. I just will not connect. I have Roon and HQP on a Win 10/64 machine and this configuration has worked successfully for a very long time. To have it stop from one track to the next is really strange. I get two messages when I open HQP now. The first is the "cannot open device" message and then the "not found" message after that. As you can see, I have tried everything I could think of. As I mention below the Rendu still sees the DAC and plays to the DAC as a Roon Ready device just fine. When I look in HQP settings, the DAC is not ther in IPv4 or IPv6. It used to be there in both.

 

I am at the end of my ability to resolve this. Your help would be greatly appreciated. If you need to get into my machine just let me know and I will get Team Viewer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JR, Andrew, Barrows,

 

I need your help.

 

I have a very strange problem. My uRendu running 2.8 suddenly does not work in NAA mode. It stopped working at the end of a track. When the next track did not play I checked HQP and the dreaded " NAA not found" message was showing. There was nothing different in my system from one track to the next.

 

I checked and the DAC (Spring 2) is showing in DAC Diagnostics and when I switched to Roon Ready it plays fine. When I switched back to NAA mode it still is not being seen by HQPlayer.

 

I have a spare 2.8 SD card which I tried without any luck. I have re-booted everything (PC, Router, Switch, HDPlex PS and uRendu) several times and still no luck. I also reverted to HQP 4.4 and then re-loaded 4.5 without success.

 

I checked the "allow network control" setting in HQP and that is turned on.

 

I tried another USB cable and that did not help.

 

Is there some physical piece of hardware inside the uRendu that could have failed?

 

I am stumped. All help appreciated.

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4 hours ago, bobflood said:

Jussi, Below is a copy of a post I put in the Rendu support area of Sonore. This is really strange. It seems that the NAA can no longer recognize my Holo Spring 2 DAC. I just will not connect. I have Roon and HQP on a Win 10/64 machine and this configuration has worked successfully for a very long time. To have it stop from one track to the next is really strange. I get two messages when I open HQP now. The first is the "cannot open device" message and then the "not found" message after that. As you can see, I have tried everything I could think of. As I mention below the Rendu still sees the DAC and plays to the DAC as a Roon Ready device just fine. When I look in HQP settings, the DAC is not ther in IPv4 or IPv6. It used to be there in both.

 

I am at the end of my ability to resolve this. Your help would be greatly appreciated. If you need to get into my machine just let me know and I will get Team Viewer.

 

Windows installs updates automatically in the background without asking you. That is one suspect. But please check Control Panel -> Network -> Adapter settings, that there are no more than one network interface active. For the other interfaces, select the interface and click Disable from the toolbar.

 

Most typical reason for NAA to not appear is that multicast packets are getting routed to wrong interface.

 

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30 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

Windows installs updates automatically in the background without asking you. That is one suspect. But please check Control Panel -> Network -> Adapter settings, that there are no more than one network interface active. For the other interfaces, select the interface and click Disable from the toolbar.

 

Most typical reason for NAA to not appear is that multicast packets are getting routed to wrong interface.

 

Thanks but no luck. Still getting the two messages; "can't open" and "not found".

 

I checked and all adapters are disabled including wifi (which I don't use on this machine. I do have VPN software on this machine but that is off as well and the adapters are disabled.

 

I checked "Media Streaming" and the uRendu is there checked as allowed and active which makes sense as Roon can stream to it.

 

Is there a dependent service that Windows may have turned off. If so let me know and I will check.

 

Any other ideas?

 

There is always the nuclear option to just re-load Windows but I hate to do that as it is a lot of work to restore.

 

Will wait to hear from you.

 

Thanks 

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3 minutes ago, bobflood said:

Is there a dependent service that Windows may have turned off. If so let me know and I will check.

 

By default, all necessary services on Windows are running.

 

4 minutes ago, bobflood said:

Any other ideas?

 

You could check HQPlayer's log how many NAAs it finds. This would tell if it is found on network, but just DAC is not visible.

 

If it is not found on network, you could also try my NAA image on Rendu for comparison, if you have spare microSD cards. If it is still not found, the problem could be at Windows side, like firewall blocking the response packets from NAA. Also check that Windows has not suddenly decided that home network is "Public network" which it sometimes may also do (very annoying).

 

If it finds the NAA, but DAC is not visible, then the problem is between Rendu and DAC.

 

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I did have a spare SD card. I copied your image for the Rendu to it and tried it but it does not work. I tried this before this problem and the NAA did not show up using it so I went back to sonicOrbiter 2.8 and it worked well until this. The red light on the Rendu never went out so it probably was not fully booting up. I re-burned 4.1.1 for Rendu to it and I tried it again today with the same result.

 

I have enabled HQP log file. What is the URL for that again.

 

I checked and the network is Private.

 

I tried disabling the firewall but still the same result.

 

Let me find the log and I will post it.

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Here is the log file. I found it.

 

 2020/05/13 18:06:38 Starting...
  2020/05/13 18:06:38 Signalyst HQPlayer 4 Desktop v4.5.0
  2020/05/13 18:06:38 Engine selected: 
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Restore GUI state
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 libDSP version 21.8.1
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 HQPlayer Engine version 4.28.0
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Number of processor cores: 6
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Core mask: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000111111
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 CPU brand name: GenuineIntel
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Core pinning enabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Initial parallel threads: 6
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Number of logical cores: 6
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 DSP thread pools enabled (2)
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 DSP pipelines disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Pipelined DSP engine enabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 DirectSDM disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Audio engine: network
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Output set channels: 2 (2)
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Output set channels: 2 (2)
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Volume max: 0
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Volume min: -8
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Set volume: -8
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 Automatic rate family enabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:42 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:42 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:42 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 SDM conversion parameters (8, 0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 DSD 6 dB gain disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Control active volume range: -8 - 0 dB
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Audio transport: rate=0 channels=0 format=auto buffer=0
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Input set channels: 2 (2)
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Input SDM packing: 1
# 2020/05/13 18:06:43 clReadAudio::Open(): clASIOEngine::DeviceLookup(): lDrvs < 0
# 2020/05/13 18:06:43 clControlServerThread::AddInput(): failed to open input device
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Listen discovery on ::
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Listen discovery on 0.0.0.0
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Audio transport: rate=0 channels=0 format=auto buffer=0
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Output set channels: 2 (2)
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Output SDM packing: 1
# 2020/05/13 18:06:43 clReadAudio::Open(): clASIOEngine::DeviceLookup(): lDrvs < 0
# 2020/05/13 18:06:43 failed to open input device
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Set filter: 29 / 29
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Set oversampling: 20 / 20
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Set dither: 9
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Set modulator: 11
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 AutoSDM disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Audio engine is normal
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 SDM conversion parameters (8, 0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 DSD 6 dB gain disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Audio engine PCM mode enabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Requested output rate: 768000
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 NAA output set sampling rate: 768000 (768000)
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Automatic output rate switching enabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:43 Set volume: -5
* 2020/05/13 18:06:43 Control server allow remote control
  2020/05/13 18:06:44 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:44 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:44 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:44 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:45 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:45 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:45 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:45 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:46 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:46 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:46 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:46 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:47 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:47 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:47 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:47 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:48 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:48 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:48 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:48 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:49 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:49 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:49 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:49 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:50 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:50 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:50 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:50 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:51 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:51 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:51 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:51 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:52 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:52 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:52 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:52 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:53 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:53 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:53 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:53 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:54 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:54 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:54 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:54 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:55 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:55 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:55 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:55 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:56 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:56 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:56 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:56 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:57 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:57 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:57 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:57 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:06:58 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:06:58 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:06:58 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:06:58 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:07:01 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:07:01 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:07:01 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:07:01 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:07:02 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:07:02 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:07:02 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:07:02 NAA output adapter '' not found
  2020/05/13 18:07:03 NAA output network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2020/05/13 18:07:03 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:07:03 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:07:03 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:07:04 Store GUI state
& 2020/05/13 18:07:04 Playlist save: C:\Users\bobfl\AppData\Local\HQPlayer\current.m3u8
  2020/05/13 18:07:04 Shutting down...
  2020/05/13 18:07:04 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:07:04 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:07:04 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters
? 2020/05/13 18:07:04 NAA output adapter '' not found
* 2020/05/13 18:07:04 Exit
 

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26 minutes ago, bobflood said:

  2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output discovery from 0.0.0.0
& 2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
& 2020/05/13 18:06:59 NAA output discovered network audio: name='mrendu-013ABC' version='Signalyst Network Audio Daemon 4.1.1'  @192.168.1.143:43210
  2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output connect to 192.168.1.143:43210 [ipv4]
  2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output network endpoint: Holo Audio UAC2.0 Gen2 Standard: USB Audio (hw:CARD=Standard,DEV=0)
  2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output discovered 1 Network Audio Adapters

 

OK, so the NAA and the DAC are found. It should appear on the device listing in Settings dialog too.

 

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? 2020/05/13 18:07:00 NAA output adapter '' not found

 

In the configuration there is no NAA + DAC combination selected, so HQPlayer fails to connect to empty unspecified device.

 

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2 hours ago, bobflood said:

We can continue this tomorrow. It is very late on your end.

On a WAG, I decided to move the Cat5e cable from the switch it was on directly to the router as a test. Well, it started working again! So I then moved the cable to a different port on the switch and it continues to work. Strange that the port was only interfering with the NAA function and not the Roon endpoint function. So I am leaving it on the new port and standing in amazement of the BS this hobby is capable of throwing at us. It had been on that port for over a year and there was no difference in configuration of the ports. Flow Control was turned on for both ports. The only difference is that the previous port is a 10Gbe capable port. Maybe it was a clock issue but it only affected the NAA function. 

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