HQPlayer's Network Audio Adapter

[Sigi]

Hi,

I have the Hardware, could try to test the Linux driver! For that I will have to install HQPlayer for Linux. What do you think about it?

cheers

sigi

[Miska]

On 11/3/2018 at 2:54 PM, Sigi said:

I have tried now, unfortunately it doesn’t work under windows. When I start the bat file there is no response from the Asio driver.

Am I doing something wrong? I used the latest version of NAD

 

It doesn't do anything immediately, only once HQPlayer starts talking to it. Do you get anything listed at HQPlayer side?

 

networkaudiod passes null window handle to the ASIO driver, so there may be some drivers that actually care about it. But usually it shouldn't get used for anything else than ASIO Control Panel, which is not used by networkaudiod anyway.

 

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I have the Hardware, could try to test the Linux driver! For that I will have to install HQPlayer for Linux. What do you think about it?

 

If you get the driver from Merging, you could try it out...

 

[luisma]

On 11/9/2012 at 10:13 AM, 4est said:

out of a vinyl cave only recently

@4est welcome to the digital world of hi res audio, you may go back to the cave from time to time but you will spend so much more time here

 

 

[Sigi]

Hi Miska,

When I start the latest version of NAD I get:

api-ms-Win-core-libraryloader-I1-2-1.dll missing.

If I start version 3.5.0.0 I get:

[c:\NAD.exer] (1996) discovery from [ : :fff:169.254.93.126%12]:49185

 

It is strange, IP address of the Hapi is 169.254.1.165

cheers

Sigi

 

[Miska]

40 minutes ago, Sigi said:

Hi Miska,

When I start the latest version of NAD I get:

api-ms-Win-core-libraryloader-I1-2-1.dll missing.

If I start version 3.5.0.0 I get:

[c:\NAD.exer] (1996) discovery from [ : :fff:169.254.93.126%12]:49185

 

It is strange, IP address of the Hapi is 169.254.1.165

cheers

Sigi

 

Maybe you are missing this one?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/2999226

Or the VS2017 runtime from here?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads

 

You would never see address of Hapi there. That is autoconfig address of the HQPlayer machine...

[Sigi]

I managed to connect with 3.5.0.0 , but streaming is still making problem. 

Wanted to use the latest version of NAD, but still the problem with api-ms-Win-core- libraryloader-I1-2-1.dll missing. VS 2017 installed, same Problem. All updates of win 2012 R2, apart from security updates ( am mainly not in the internet ), same problem.

Do you have any idea what I could try?

cheers

Sigi

[bibo01]

11 hours ago, Sigi said:

Do you have any idea what I could try?

Probably a long shot, but as you use Server 2016, I wonder if the new Server 2019 beta can help you.

[Miska]

16 hours ago, Sigi said:

I managed to connect with 3.5.0.0 , but streaming is still making problem. 

Wanted to use the latest version of NAD, but still the problem with api-ms-Win-core- libraryloader-I1-2-1.dll missing. VS 2017 installed, same Problem. All updates of win 2012 R2, apart from security updates ( am mainly not in the internet ), same problem.

Do you have any idea what I could try?

 

Stock Win10 Pro?

 

But overall, I'd recommend to forget about Windows and for example try my bootable image instead...

[Sigi]

Bibo01, I am using win 2012 R2.

Would like to change the operating system, but my problem is the driver I will need for the Merging. I tried Win 10, but had always problems while streaming. Streaming suddenly stopped and after a few seconds started again. The same with the OS itself. That’s why I returned to win2012 R2. Very much stable than win10, at least in my configuration. Miska, your bootable image is Linux, am I right? Or am I missing something?

cheers

Sigi

[Miska]

6 hours ago, Sigi said:

Miska, your bootable image is Linux, am I right? Or am I missing something?

 

Yes... Doesn't have support for Ravenna at the moment. But if you are using Ravenna, why are you after NAA in first place?

[bibo01]

20 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

Yes... Doesn't have support for Ravenna at the moment. But if you are using Ravenna, why are you after NAA in first place?

That's right!

[Sigi]

No, I will not use NAA if it is possible to switch to Linux. Only tried NAA in conjunction with windows, to see if an improvement can be achieved. 

My problem is that Merging don’t seem to be willing to give me the driver. Till now I didn’t get an answer.

cheers

Sigi

[semente]

On 10/9/2018 at 1:36 PM, Miska said:

 

Now latest Linux kernels have specific fixes to make UD-501 work with native DSD. At the moment I'm playing using the CL100 to run HQPlayer Embedded on minimal Fedora 28 (with original Fedora kernel, no mods) doing upsampling to DSD128.

 

Using UpBoard as NAA running either minimal Fedora 28 or my bootable image should also work (not tested).

 

So now UD-501 should be fine with Linux given new enough kernel, or kernel with applicable patches.

I installed your cuboxnaa-355-cubox-i.7z image but I can't get HQP desktop to connect with it.

I never could use your images with the Raspberry Pi either, always had to use a Linux image...

The BT router doesn't show that the cubox is connected.

Running arp -a on the terminal only shows the router, the NAS and two 224.0.0.XXX addresses...

Be gentle because I am an ignorant in these matters.

 

P.S. there's also a (198.168.1.255) at (incomplete) on en0 ifscope {ethernet}

[Miska]

1 hour ago, semente said:

I installed your cuboxnaa-355-cubox-i.7z image but I can't get HQP desktop to connect with it.

I never could use your images with the Raspberry Pi either, always had to use a Linux image...

The BT router doesn't show that the cubox is connected.

Running arp -a on the terminal only shows the router, the NAS and two 224.0.0.XXX addresses...

Be gentle because I am an ignorant in these matters.

 

P.S. there's also a (198.168.1.255) at (incomplete) on en0 ifscope {ethernet}

 

DHCP is for some reason failing on the ethernet interface? Does running "ifconfig" show you a proper IP on the Ethernet interface?

 

Still IPv6 auto-config should come up with something functional (not very helpful though if you have HQPlayer on a Mac).

 

[semente]

18 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

DHCP is for some reason failing on the ethernet interface? Does running "ifconfig" show you a proper IP on the Ethernet interface?

 

Still IPv6 auto-config should come up with something functional (not very helpful though if you have HQPlayer on a Mac).

 

Could be the British Telecom router, I don't know...

 

I presumend you wanted me to run ifconfig on the Terminal:

 

lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
    options=3<RXCSUM,TXCSUM>
    inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
    inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
    inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    options=10b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_HWTAGGING,AV>
    ether a8:20:66:36:7d:ef
    inet6 fe80::aa20:66ff:fe36:7def%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
    inet 192.168.1.118 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
    status: active
en1: flags=8823<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    ether 5c:96:9d:70:95:5b
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect (<unknown type>)
    status: inactive
en2: flags=963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX> mtu 1500
    options=60<TSO4,TSO6>
    ether d2:00:1a:34:98:c0
    media: autoselect <full-duplex>
    status: inactive
fw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 4078
    lladdr a8:20:66:ff:fe:a3:49:8c
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect <full-duplex>
    status: inactive
p2p0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
    ether 0e:96:9d:70:95:5b
    media: autoselect
    status: inactive
awdl0: flags=8902<BROADCAST,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
    ether fe:9a:71:e9:12:af
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect
    status: inactive
bridge0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
    ether aa:20:66:63:38:00
    Configuration:
        id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
        maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
        root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
        ipfilter disabled flags 0x2
    member: en2 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
            ifmaxaddr 0 port 6 priority 0 path cost 0
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: <unknown type>
    status: inactive

[Miska]

29 minutes ago, semente said:

Could be the British Telecom router, I don't know...

 

I presumend you wanted me to run ifconfig on the Terminal:

 

lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
    options=3<RXCSUM,TXCSUM>
    inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
    inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
    inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    options=10b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_HWTAGGING,AV>
    ether a8:20:66:36:7d:ef
    inet6 fe80::aa20:66ff:fe36:7def%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
    inet 192.168.1.118 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
    status: active
en1: flags=8823<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    ether 5c:96:9d:70:95:5b
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect (<unknown type>)
    status: inactive
en2: flags=963<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX> mtu 1500
    options=60<TSO4,TSO6>
    ether d2:00:1a:34:98:c0
    media: autoselect <full-duplex>
    status: inactive
fw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 4078
    lladdr a8:20:66:ff:fe:a3:49:8c
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect <full-duplex>
    status: inactive
p2p0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2304
    ether 0e:96:9d:70:95:5b
    media: autoselect
    status: inactive
awdl0: flags=8902<BROADCAST,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1484
    ether fe:9a:71:e9:12:af
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: autoselect
    status: inactive
bridge0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    options=63<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,TSO4,TSO6>
    ether aa:20:66:63:38:00
    Configuration:
        id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 hellotime 0 fwddelay 0
        maxage 0 holdcnt 0 proto stp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
        root id 0:0:0:0:0:0 priority 0 ifcost 0 port 0
        ipfilter disabled flags 0x2
    member: en2 flags=3<LEARNING,DISCOVER>
            ifmaxaddr 0 port 6 priority 0 path cost 0
    nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD>
    media: <unknown type>
    status: inactive

 

What hardware is this and what is it running?

 

en0 has IP 192.168.1.118 and also IPv6 address (and of course loopback adapter), but everything else is empty. I don't immediately see a problem here, although there's a bridge and the IP should be (maybe) on the bridge instead of en0.

 

[semente]

11 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

What hardware is this and what is it running?

 

en0 has IP 192.168.1.118 and also IPv6 address (and of course loopback adapter), but everything else is empty. I don't immediately see a problem here, although there's a bridge and the IP should be (maybe) on the bridge instead of en0.

 

 

HQ Player on MBP running 10.11

Router is a BT Home Hub 4 https://www.manualslib.com/manual/967428/Bt-Home-Hub-4.html

NAA on Cubox i4p with your image

 

Would it help if I connect everything to a switch, and this to a router?

[Miska]

8 minutes ago, semente said:

HQ Player on MBP running 10.11

Router is a BT Home Hub 4 https://www.manualslib.com/manual/967428/Bt-Home-Hub-4.html

NAA on Cubox i4p with your image

 

Would it help if I connect everything to a switch, and this to a router?

 

OK, but I'd like to see that output from the CuBox-i4Pro side...

 

Using a separate switch may or may not help depending on what the BT router is doing, but usually the LAN side ports on such are attached to internal switch.

 

[semente]

1 minute ago, Miska said:

 

OK, but I'd like to see that output from the CuBox-i4Pro side...

 

Using a separate switch may or may not help depending on what the BT router is doing, but usually the LAN side ports on such are attached to internal switch.

 

 

Don't worry, you've wasted too much time already.

I'll try to install Stretch tommorow... Is this version OK and will I be able to ssh the Cubox from the MBP?

 

https://www.armbian.com/cubox-i/

[Miska]

5 minutes ago, semente said:

Don't worry, you've wasted too much time already.

I'll try to install Stretch tommorow... Is this version OK and will I be able to ssh the Cubox from the MBP?

 

https://www.armbian.com/cubox-i/

 

armbian is a different thing. I've been using official Debian.

 

I think I've been using this one:

http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-armhf/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/

 

[semente]

2 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

armbian is a different thing. I've been using official Debian.

 

I think I've been using this one:

http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-armhf/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/

 

 

Thanks, I'll install that one.

[Jud]

22 hours ago, semente said:

 

Thanks, I'll install that one.

 

It seems to me using Miska’s image takes any OS configuration headaches out of the equation, and all you have to be concerned with is your network.  But try armbian/Debian if you like and see if it works for you and helps the situation.  If not, simple enough to go back to the image.

[jabbr]

On 11/7/2018 at 4:52 PM, semente said:

 

Don't worry, you've wasted too much time already.

I'll try to install Stretch tommorow... Is this version OK and will I be able to ssh the Cubox from the MBP?

 

https://www.armbian.com/cubox-i/

 

So ... Cubox hardware is ancient but if you aren’t using Wi-Fi then @Miska s images are awesome ... for WiFi I’d use Ambian (and do)

[Miska]

4 hours ago, jabbr said:

So ... Cubox hardware is ancient but if you aren’t using Wi-Fi then @Miska s images are awesome ... for WiFi I’d use Ambian (and do)

 

I think I have WiFi driver included, but not wpa_supplicant. I could maybe build some new NAA images... I ordered the new CuBox in something like March this year, still haven't seen it. And they don't respond to my bugging about it anymore either. I have some other similar new hardware, but it is still total PITA to deal with...

 

I didn't include WiFi things before because I considered the images configuration free which cannot be the case with WiFi...

 

[semente]

15 hours ago, jabbr said:

 

So ... Cubox hardware is ancient but if you aren’t using Wi-Fi then @Miska s images are awesome ... for WiFi I’d use Ambian (and do)

 

10 hours ago, Miska said:

 

I think I have WiFi driver included, but not wpa_supplicant. I could maybe build some new NAA images... I ordered the new CuBox in something like March this year, still haven't seen it. And they don't respond to my bugging about it anymore either. I have some other similar new hardware, but it is still total PITA to deal with...

 

I didn't include WiFi things before because I considered the images configuration free which cannot be the case with WiFi...

 

 

I don't use wi-fi. My apartment has its own wi-fi router that is linked to the whole college and I am not allowed to install my own wi-fi network.

I am using an old BT router to connect NAS, laptop and NUC with the wi-fi turned off. The BT could be the source of my problems, so I'm thinking of replacing it with this ethernet-only Ubiquity:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011N1IT2A/