Yogui Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Hi, Short Question: Is there any guidelines/ideas on how to split the money spent in components to get maximum audio quality on a system at a given price. My own system example: 10 % Desktop PC 03 % PCI to USB CARD 01 % USB Cable 33 % DAC (Stereo) 03 % XLR Cables 50 % Active Monitors (Stereo) $5K-$30K Price Range I did a few searches on the topic and came empty handed, but please post a link if any or your toughts/example. Long Explanation: The idea is to have a guideline in to how much to spend in a Component versus an other in a given system. There will be too many variable behind those %, probably hundreds of disccusions about components etc. Please, I'm trying to stay away from particular discussions, brands and models, I know it's hard :-) I assume that everyone will pick their favourite component brand influenced by they priority's e.g. Connectivity, Design, Power etc. Don't quote me on the %, I'm guessing base on my limited experience/reading (I suppose most will do the same) (the leading 0 on the % number is just to keep the alignment) It will change with the whole system price, so price range should be a factor. But may be wider than $5K-$20K. Also avancement on technology of a component will tend to reduce it's % vs the rest. This should be the case of DAC vs Speaker If you change the system design itself just list the components as a chain, e.g. Active Monitor may change for Amplifier>Cables>Speakers How I think to use the guideline: For example I'm upgrading all cables. Currently my DAC is the best component, which is likely stay in the system longer. So I would take the value of the DAC $6500 and apply the % in reverse to get the whole system value Target System ($) = Component ($) / Component (%) $6500 / 33% = $19,696 33% will be 0.33 in this case or 100 / 33 That is not my current system value, but the one I would build if I keep the DAC in place and upgrade all the other components. Now, How much should I spend on my next XLR Cables to match the DAC value? Component ($) = Target System ($) x Component (%) XLR Cables $ = $19,696 x 3% XLR Cables $ = $590 Remember it's just a guideline, to somehow "relate" our audiophile daydreaming with the pocket :-) Regards, Yogui. Chris, If the site have some kind of user form everyone could place their current system components, that may also be an indication and work as a reference with profiles etc. head-fi does it and I found it usefull. Synology DS1815>Cisco Switch>CAPS Pipeline Win7/10 x64 > Foobar/AlbumPlayer/JRiver MC > ASIO > Dac: exaSound e28 > Speakers: Focal SM9 and Twins Be6 in 5.1 > HeadAmp: Woo WA22 > Cans: HD800 (Bal)/Focal Uthopia > Portable: Iphone X> Shure SE530PTH Link to comment
Yogui Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Thanks for the replies! :-) I forgot about my signature, so my system was there all the time anyway :-( Probably the numbers make it sound hard and fixed but that’s not my intention. May be the numbers are not that good, but otherwise I can not think of a reference. From the comments and my experience I get that Speakers + Amp are a big influence in Quality (nothing new there), I suppose second by DAC. To follow the example, I do read the specs of speakers, but dont mean much at all. The final decision is done after a good listening session. Living in Sydney, Australia makes it harder to audition my next speakers which don’t have a name yet but I hope they will keep me happy for long years. May be is a good excuse to go Rocky Mountain :-) So this was just an exercise to put some frame around the cost. Synology DS1815>Cisco Switch>CAPS Pipeline Win7/10 x64 > Foobar/AlbumPlayer/JRiver MC > ASIO > Dac: exaSound e28 > Speakers: Focal SM9 and Twins Be6 in 5.1 > HeadAmp: Woo WA22 > Cans: HD800 (Bal)/Focal Uthopia > Portable: Iphone X> Shure SE530PTH Link to comment
Yogui Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Thanks again, Purite Audio, I did listen to some Genelec (8030 & 8040) but didnt like them and went for Focal Twins. I may listen to higer end Genelecs, I do like that they are strong build, integrate 5.1 and DSP/room correction. Danq, I will have a listen at the Magnepan. I really like Monitors (no amp hanging around) and I do listen at Near field (1mt) from them. I plan to integrate 5.1 later on. That narrows my options, may be I should give up the monitors type and have an amp I definetly have to go arround and listen to more systems to make an opinion. Synology DS1815>Cisco Switch>CAPS Pipeline Win7/10 x64 > Foobar/AlbumPlayer/JRiver MC > ASIO > Dac: exaSound e28 > Speakers: Focal SM9 and Twins Be6 in 5.1 > HeadAmp: Woo WA22 > Cans: HD800 (Bal)/Focal Uthopia > Portable: Iphone X> Shure SE530PTH Link to comment
Yogui Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks guys! Sorry for the late reply :-) @Jay yes i do look at the room and treatment as well as speaker placement. I got jim's get better sound book and dvd, highly recommended @firedog ATC SM-25 look great not a single distributor in Australia has them in stock :-( I am leaning towards the KEF LS-50 Anniversary with a classe 5.1 multichannel power amp They are small and coaxial supposed to be best for near field Ive listen the Magies 3.7 they are a soft beauty ideal for analog and voice. I do a lot of electro Synology DS1815>Cisco Switch>CAPS Pipeline Win7/10 x64 > Foobar/AlbumPlayer/JRiver MC > ASIO > Dac: exaSound e28 > Speakers: Focal SM9 and Twins Be6 in 5.1 > HeadAmp: Woo WA22 > Cans: HD800 (Bal)/Focal Uthopia > Portable: Iphone X> Shure SE530PTH Link to comment
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