JRiver Media Center on Mac

[4est]

When it's all said and done it would be interesting to compare the sound quality of the almighty JRiver running on a Windows box vs a Mac...

 

This will be interesting. Somehow I doubt they will be similar sounding- completely different sound engines.

[Melvin]

This is from 3 weeks ago.

 

[wappinghigh]

Can't read it. What does it say?

 

I know everyone is interested how JRiver for OSX will sound, but I'm more interested in the politics of all this...

 

How will Apple react ?

 

They've had iTunes as king on OSX for years. I mean it was *the* program that kicked Apple back into life 10years back. That and how itunes all worked with the iPod ...

 

Yeh. I know JRiver will be like a tiny knat biting the Elephants hide... But it's going to be an annoying little knat all the same.

 

How is Apple going to respond ? What they going to do with the DRM? I mean the songs will still be on a Mac right?

 

And what about the quality side?...surely they will respond with an iTunes upgrade on that front pretty soon??

 

What ya all reckon?

[Melvin]

Can't read it. What does it say?

 

I believe if you click on the image it will be readable .. sorry if I'm mistaken. Here is the quote and link:

 

Mac OS X Music Players - alternatives to iTunes

 

"From Jim at J. River.

 

 

Here's the status to date.

 

As said above, we have MC's audio engine working, so we can play audio. We can encode and decode most codec's (ALAC, AIFF, etc.)

 

The user interface is not working yet. Parts of networking don't work. DLNA, ripping, burning and Theater View don't.

 

We have not looked at video or TV yet, and they will not be part of the first version.

 

By commenting out some non-audio features, we're expecting to be able to compile the whole program in the next few weeks.

 

It should take several more weeks to clean things up to the point where we could release an audio only version of MC for testing.

 

Expect these early builds to be available in late January or February."

[jriver]

The ported source is now compiling and linking. We're in the crash/debug stage now.

[wgscott]

Cool. I always get a kick out of compiling fortran on OS X.

[Paul R]

WATFOR, Mr Scott?

 

 

Cool. I always get a kick out of compiling fortran on OS X.

[stevebythebay]

Guess it could be worse. How's about compiling in Assembler on a mainframe via card deck overnight. Debugging daily batch runs. Taking days or weeks to get a clean compile (showing my age...).

[shadow ewe]

I also tried BootCamp + MC17. It did not like it and kept crashing/hanging. In the end I took off BootCamp and stuck with AN+ on OS X. Have to say, AN+ is now very stable and you get a very high quality of playback. Just wish the GUI was as sexy as MC. Cant have everything even though we sure try our damm hardest.

[jriver]

I just posted this on our forum. We're within weeks now of releasing a very early version.

 

Here's our plan. Please comment if you have a way to improve it.

 

1. The license will be separate from the Windows version.

 

2. Initial releases will have a 30 day timeout. There may be more than one of these.

 

3. The final price will be the same as the Windows version.

 

4. The Early Bird price will be $25. No refunds.

 

5. It probably won't be dependable for daily use for the first 3 months.

 

Here's the thread:

Mac OSX Progress Report

[Paul R]

At $25 for the earlybird cost, it is an absolute no brainer. Be sure to let us know when and where to go get it.

 

-Paul

 

 

I just posted this on our forum. We're within weeks now of releasing a very early version.

 

 

 

Here's the thread:

Mac OSX Progress Report

[mwheelerk]

I just posted this on our forum. We're within weeks now of releasing a very early version.

 

 

 

Here's the thread:

Mac OSX Progress Report

 

I'm in. Where do I make payment?

[jriver]

I'm in. Where do I make payment?

 

Thanks. You'll learn more in that thread when we're ready.

[jriver]

Early Bird Licenses are available now:

Media Center - Mac

 

Expect First Look (Still Rough) versions by February 22.

[jtwrace]

Early Bird Licenses are available now:

Media Center - Mac

 

Expect First Look (Still Rough) versions by February 22.

Thanks. Can it be installed without any trouble with other programs? I just don't want iTunes to get mad!

[jriver]

Thanks. Can it be installed without any trouble with other programs? I just don't want iTunes to get mad!

There will be no conflict. Early editions of the Mac version will be available after Feb 22.

Media Center - Mac

[jtwrace]

There will be no conflict. Early editions of the Mac version will be available after Feb 22.

Media Center - Mac

 

OK. Just wanted to make sure that installing it wouldn't mess with iTunes or Pure Music. The whole idea will be that JR MC-"MAC.1" will replace both of them. Correct?

[jriver]

OK. Just wanted to make sure that installing it wouldn't mess with iTunes or Pure Music. The whole idea will be that JR MC-"MAC.1" will replace both of them. Correct?

The first version will be a music only edition of JRiver Media Center. It can be a complete replacement for iTunes or any other music player on Mac.

[jtwrace]

The first version will be a music only edition of JRiver Media Center. It can be a complete replacement for iTunes or any other music player on Mac.

 

Yes, that's all I'd want...music only!

 

I'll be interested in trying it. Can you explain easily in laymen's terms how & why you're able to replace two pieces (iTunes & Music Player of choice) with JRiver? Of course get it to sound as good or better.

 

Off to purchase...

[jriver]

Yes, that's all I'd want...music only!

Can you explain easily in laymen's terms how & why you're able to replace two pieces (iTunes & Music Player of choice) with JRiver?

I'm sorry. I don't understand your question. iTunes is a music player.

[Vandekennedylaan]

Are vst-plugins plugins possible in the Mac-version?

[Paul R]

On Macs in the Audiophile community, iTunes is often used as a library manager only, with a separate player, like Amarra, taking on the duties of actually playing the music. It may be a little strange, but Amarra initially sold - and sold well - at a cost of over $1000. Playing over iTunes. Most of the players on the Mac side that don't use iTunes for a library manager do not get wide acceptance.

 

That will not be an issue with JRiver, since it comes with a very good library manage built in - just like iTunes. We are just all hoping it sounds as good as on a PC. If it does, you are going to have a huge rush on your hands, and more press than you can imagine.

 

JRiver is, I think, going to be perfectly delightful- and outside of Apple, you guys will have the majority of experience with multi-platform players.

 

Ordered my license as soon as I saw your post by the way - won't break my heart if you release a little early even... (grin)

 

Oh- I do have a question. Will JRemote work from the start? That's a very important issue, and a "yes" to that would be really nice to hear. Even though I expect your beta testers have already made it clear how important that is.

 

Music only is fine to start!

 

-Paul

 

 

I'm sorry. I don't understand your question. iTunes is a music player.

[Audioclyde]

I bought a license just now as well, even though I'm on vacation and won't be home until a week from tomorrow - just couldn't wait!!

 

Randy

[jtwrace]

On Macs in the Audiophile community, iTunes is often used as a library manager only, with a separate player, like Amarra, taking on the duties of actually playing the music. It may be a little strange, but Amarra initially sold - and sold well - at a cost of over $1000. Playing over iTunes. Most of the players on the Mac side that don't use iTunes for a library manager do not get wide acceptance.

 

That will not be an issue with JRiver, since it comes with a very good library manage built in - just like iTunes. We are just all hoping it sounds as good as on a PC. If it does, you are going to have a huge rush on your hands, and more press than you can imagine.

 

JRiver is, I think, going to be perfectly delightful- and outside of Apple, you guys will have the majority of experience with multi-platform players.

 

Ordered my license as soon as I saw your post by the way - won't break my heart if you release a little early even... (grin)

 

Oh- I do have a question. Will JRemote work from the start? That's a very important issue, and a "yes" to that would be really nice to hear. Even though I expect your beta testers have already made it clear how important that is.

 

Music only is fine to start!

 

-Paul

Right. Do you understand what I'm asking?

[jriver]

JRiver Media Center is both a player and an organizer. You won't be disappointed. But be prepared for the first month or two to be a little rough. It will work, but it may not be completely stable.