dummy Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Great site with many clear pictures! <br /> <br /> Link is broken so just enter <br /> <br /> http://www.my-hiend.com<br /> <br /> and follow CES 2012 day 1... <br /> <br /> Arcam rDAC / Oppo BDP-83 / NAD 315BEE / Totem Arro Link to comment
Priaptor Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I am "hopefully optimistic", but surely this diverts from what they have done and made them so successful in the past.<br /> <br /> I understand what you are saying about UPnP and as I have said in prior posts, that is not my beef. My beef is that it appears, they have NOT addressed the shortcomings of their USB architecture, a much more important facet of a ARC REF Dac than adding a bunch of gadgets, such as an iPhone port, a usb stick port, a display and for that matter UPnP capabilities. <br /> <br /> I can tell you that as a "typical" ARC customer, I buy ARC because usually, when you buy their stuff, SQ is first priority and most of their stuff is upgrade-able to a degree, such as my REF 5, which, is not being replaced, but upgraded for a small fee.<br /> <br /> Of course I will wait, but from what I see, which by their own words, it sounds like DAC 8 USB architecture, I am not thrilled by the direction. <br /> <br /> The approach they are taking, Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Sorry either in not getting your point or you're not getting mine...<br /> <br /> Perhaps ARC feel that bypassing USB completely and using UPnP *IS* the way to improve SQ. Perhaps they feel, as some other manufacturers do, that USB is a flawed interface for audio - certainly it doesn't live up to the expectation of platform I dependence (note the improvements seen with SotM cards) and cable independence. <br /> <br /> Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Priaptor Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 their strategy, but I highly doubt it.<br /> <br /> I have been an ARC customer for years, and if what you are saying is correct (maybe you are right) I would highly doubt they would release a REF product as a so called watershed product. But maybe you are right and I remain open to see what it ultimately turns out to be. However, again, if they are releasing a REF product, I would still expect them to address the limitations of their USB input and it doesn't seem that any of their inputs (including UPnP) is addressing 32/384 or DSD streaming.<br /> <br /> It does look like they are trying to be all things to all people, which is atypical for ARC. <br /> <br /> It also seems like they are almost copying PS Audio's new MKII DAC and adding a tube analogue output. Link to comment
agentsmith Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anxiously awaiting its DSD announcements. Macbook Pro/MacMini/dCS Debussy/Cambridge 650BD[br]Vitus Audio SS-010/Living Voice OBX-R2 Speakers/Ultrasone Edition 8 phones[br]Airport Express/Meridian AD88[br] Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Progress has been made. dCS and other manufacturers have agreed on the method(s) they will use for DSD over USB. <br /> <br /> Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
agentsmith Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Any clue on when the Debussy machines will be upgradable? Macbook Pro/MacMini/dCS Debussy/Cambridge 650BD[br]Vitus Audio SS-010/Living Voice OBX-R2 Speakers/Ultrasone Edition 8 phones[br]Airport Express/Meridian AD88[br] Link to comment
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