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I'm running XP and have been using Foobar 2000 but the interface is so archaic that I tried Media Monkey again (it used to give my PC fits but now strangely it plays perfect!).

 

I'm playing back HRx stuff at 24/176.4 (wav) and some mega 24/192 aiff files. I downloaded the aiff plug in for Media Monkey as well. OK, that said, with it set to wav_out in Media Monkey, am I bypassing kmixer in Windows XP?? Also, anyone compare wav_out in MM to, say ASIO instead?

 

Thanks, Joel

 

Regards, Joel

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Hi Joel - One of my Windows XP music servers uses MediaMonkey and Wave Out. It's bit perfect. Here is the link to the system I'm talking about http://www.computeraudiophile.com/Audiophile-Reference-Music-Server-For-A-Song . I've tried ASIO but always seem to make it back to wave out.

 

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Thanks Chris! Glad to know Media Monkey has the chops to bypass all the stuff in windows, and yes I defeated the volume control on MM too.

 

Great article too. Although I do find it mildly humorous that the PC itself is $279, and just the sound card w/cable is $760! Someone looking from the outside in would think we were mad!

 

Regards, Joel

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I'm actually not sure whether waveout is bit perfect unless other conditions are met.

 

But like Chris, my brother and I always ended up back at waveout when testing on his XP PC.

 

I believe it's bit perfect if the k-mixer is kept at 100% volume and no system sounds are playing.

 

Chris - can you test this - see what happens if you lower the windows volume ?

 

MAtt.

 

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I'm actually not sure whether waveout is bit perfect unless other conditions are met.

 

But like Chris, my brother and I always ended up back at waveout when testing on his XP PC.

 

I believe it's bit perfect if the k-mixer is kept at 100% volume and no system sounds are playing.

 

Chris - can you test this - see what happens if you lower the windows volume ?

 

MAtt.

 

HTPC: AMD Athlon 4850e, 4GB, Vista, BD/HD-DVD into -> ADM9.1

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...when I read something about MM and software settings I am so interested because I'm looking to the "bit perfect" or something like this.

Do you know if Daniel Weiss is ready to show us the software that can E A S Y (this is a word that I hope he will writes on...) detected it?

Is it an upgrade for the Vesta/Minerva driver?

 

Am I wrong about that?

 

 

ciao

 

L.

 

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Me too! Right now Foobar hates both me and my ASIO plug in which is also supposed to be "bit perfect". I am hoping that MM does this too. Chris, from what I've read if your volume control on the pc works then kmixer is not being bypassed. Does your volume work? I'm going to try mine now.....

 

Regards, Joel

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Good visual there. I'm running XP too and it should look the same but it is slightly different. I know for sure I dont have that "do not map through this device" option on my 0404. Hmmmmm. Have to dig some more. How far does the rabbit hole go?????

 

Regards, Joel

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Hi Joel - I'm willing to bet you have this option somewhere. Can you verify it's not there.

 

Control Panel >> Sounds and Audio Devices >> Hardware >> Select Your audio Device >> Hit Properties button >> Select the Properties tab on the pop up window >> Click the + next to Audio Devices >> Select your audio device once again >> Select Properties >> And .... Let me know what you see.

 

Thanks Joel!

 

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If I have the MM WaveOut settings Enable Volume then I can control the volume within MM, if I have this disabled then I can't in MM. In the XP volume window I have Speaker, Wave, SW Synth, CD Player, changing the vol in Speaker, SW Synth and CD Player has no effect, but I can change/mute the vol in Wave

 

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Hi Chris,

Thanks for the details there, I found it!!! My do not map box was unchecked so I checked it like your screenshot. Thanks, your a lifesaver! Boy, Im glad I started this thread, looks like others are benefiting too!

 

Ok, that said, dumb question of the day: what exactly does unmapping through the device do?

 

Also, have you ever tried the asio plug in for MM? I tried it yesterday but cant get MM to recognize the plug in. I copied the file to plug ins and everything. Anyhow, I wont even mess with it if you give it the thumbs down. The reason I want to use it is Im switching between multiple sample rates with my music....44.1 and 96 and 176.4 and 192 and would like my EMU to automatically detect what Im playing and switch its sample rate without me having to manually do it. Can MM do this with or without asio? Foobar can with asio, but its glitchy as all get out.

 

Finally, for the other poster, its recommended that you disable the volume control in MM to get bit perfect playback. I read that on the reference recordings site on how to set up an HRx disc for playback. Have you done this too Chris?

 

Thanks!!!!

 

Regards, Joel

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I am close to revealing another major part of the site that will include a guide* just like you mentioned.

 

*MM settings; XP&VISTA audiophile settings; OSX settings.

 

:)

 

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