Jeff In San Diego Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This is truly a pointless question...just wonder how other people do it. Especially since I fixed my room, I now find that my ears tell me I'm in a great big room (when it is a good recording), and I prefer to listen with my eyes closed to avoid the cognitive dissonance of seeing my dinky little listening room. One thing I learned when I went from headphones back to speaker listening is that my involvement in this hobby greatly increased. I moved my listening from my home office to my long-abandoned living room. The main reason for the change is that I stopped "being at the computer" and started just listening. Being plugged into the workstation really lends itself to disconnecting from the music and drifting away from it. So while CA is where it's at...for me at least, it requires a firm conviction to separate the "C" from the "A". New guy here - old guy elsewhere...Mac Mini - BitPerfect - USB - Schiit Bifrost DAC - shit cable - Musical Fidelity A3.5 - home-brew speakers designed to prioritize phase and time response (Accuton ceramic dome drivers and first-order crossovers) and a very cheaply but well corrected room...old head, old ears, conventionally connected to an old brain with outdated software. "It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -- Mark Twain Link to comment
Paul R Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If I am listening for enjoyment, or for critical listening, yes-most of the time. (grin) Hardly ever in public though! Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
PeterSt Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I don't, because it is too easy then to move the music into your head and listen to headphones. Sounds strange to you ? Not for me; This "headphones" thing works for the better or the worse with eyes open. So, the better the music gets into your head with eyes open, the better the reproduction is. With eyes closed it doesn't take much to get it into your head, so judgement is a kind of worthless. Of course this is when your life sort of consists of ever and ever trying to improve the reproduction. Regards, Peter Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
beetlemania Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 and for the same reason I typically mediate with my eyes closed: it substantially reduces distractions and fosters maximal depth of experience. Roon ROCK (Roon 1.7; NUC7i3) > Ayre QB-9 Twenty > Ayre AX-5 Twenty > Thiel CS2.4SE (crossovers rebuilt with Clarity CSA and Multicap RTX caps, Mills MRA-12 resistors; ERSE and Jantzen coils; Cardas binding posts and hookup wire); Cardas and OEM power cables, interconnects, and speaker cables Link to comment
Chip S Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 almost always when listening to tunes for enjoyment, if my air guitar playing gets to active one of the pupsters will usually nudge me with a look of 'what are you doing' and if moved to get up and boogie well then eyes open and dancing with hounds... Chip Link to comment
baxtus Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yes, I listen with my eyes closed (if I am not driving etc - sir wgscott). Any para-stimulation while listening to music is, in fact, noise. A simple experiment is to listen to headphones in a quiet environment with the lights on and then switch them off. A perception of a significant lowering of the noise floor is instant. In a visual analogy, it is similar to viewing a movie with the lights on or off. The original information is still there but the perception with the lights off will be that much more detailed and relaxed. We use this technique in Medical Imaging also where we keep ambient light levels to a minimum when viewing our images for QC or Diagnosis. Therefore, your question is not only valid but an important concept in the listening process. Link to comment
GoldenEar Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 @PeterSt Interesting theory. However, I prefer either eyes closed or a VERY dark room (only one candle burning). I'm not sure which is better. In my opinion things are very difficult to discern. I noticed that closing the eyes during daytime is less effective than when it is dark. Sounds strange, doesn't it? OTOH, listening with open eyes in a dark room is ok. This may be due to a reduced level of ambient noise in the evening, or to less nois in the AC supply in the evening. Just my 2 cts. Kay Mac mini (Mojave, Audirvana/Amarra/Roon) -> Dirac -> Audioquest Carbon USB -> devialet 200 -> MIT Shotgun MA -> Verity Audio Leonore Link to comment
PeterSt Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 That's even more interesting. Although with one candle burning it wouldn't be as dark as with eyes closed. It would even create additional atmosphere. I think I would prefer that over anything else ... Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Bear Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I almost always listen with the eyes closed when possible and agree with the observations above in this regard. However, this may sound strange, at times I find - depending on the music in question - the experience so intense that I have to open my eyes to, shall we say, recalibrate myself. Link to comment
Abstraction Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I close my eyes at live performances and at lectures. I am a university professor, and my colleagues generally assume I am asleep. I also find music sounds better when I sit in a Scandinavian-style leather recliner with foot rest. I suspect a cloud would be better. Whatever input other than the sound is a distraction. I do not listen to many singers, because words have nothing to do with music. I listened to Meredith Monk last night. She sings wonderfully, but mostly does not sing words. I pay special attention to the bass line. Link to comment
Paul R Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I am prone to dozing off sometimes if I close my eyes and the music doesn't grab me. I try to keep my eyes open in public because it is terribly embarrassing to fall asleep at a performance. -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
nemick Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I listen with my eyes closed most of the time. That way, I feel I can more easily conjure up the feeling of being at a performance rather than seeing and therefore knowing that I'm just listening to electronics. Neil M. CA System 2013 i7 Mac Mini, JRiver, AQ Cinnamon, MF V Link 192, Teradak PS, DACiT, W4S STI 1000, Linn Ninka's Main System (Analogue) LP12, Ittock, Klyde, Lingo 2, Kairn, Wavelength Duetto, AvanteGarde Uno's Main System (Digital) CEC TL51, dCS Elgar, dCS Purcell, Wavelength Duetto, AvanteGarde Uno's Link to comment
Teresa Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 unless I'm on the computer then I have to open my eyes to read. But even when I'm on the computer and something really great starts playing I stop what I am doing, turn off the screen and close my eyes and am transported. I also agree music is best at night, must be less demand on the electrical grid. Problems with listening with the lights out include knocking over my water glass and bumping my shin on the coffee table. But to me music sounds so much better in the dark it is worth a bruise or two. I have dementia. I save all my posts in a text file I call Forums. I do a search in that file to find out what I said or did in the past. I still love music. Teresa Link to comment
bleedink Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 It's the only way to listen to music. One of the disappointments with DVD-A's is having to have an image on screen all the time. I also found that the one nagging thing on Steve Wilsons latest BluRay-although the videos are stunning at least. I come to music for the music however. Were it not for roommates, neighbors most listening would be done late night. I have a pair of P5s (not the best I know) but they are nothing compared to my real speakers. When the house was empty the other night I put on DSOTM in total darkness--The Parson's Quad of course. A revelation. I'm thinking of going blind to facilitate this experience. Unfortunately someone would slip a 128kbps Mp3 in there just ruin it for me! Eyes closed, naked, and altered. These are all the cheaper ways of getting the most from your audio equipment. Macbook Pro 2010->DLNA/UPNP fed by Drobo->Oppo BDP-93->Yamaha RXV2065 ->Panasonic GT25 -> 5.0 system Bowers & Wilkins 683 towers, 685 surrounds, HTM61 center ->Mostly SPDIF, or Analog out. Some HDMI depending on source[br]Selling Art Is Tying Your Ego To A Leash And Walking It Like A DoG[br] Link to comment
REShaman Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Only when I am driving. ;>} Best, Richard Link to comment
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Paul R Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Want a good laugh or have DEEP pockets? ROTFLMAO! I have to admit, I get a wee bit jealous of people that are able to think up stuff like this. I would like to be rich. -Paul Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
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orgel Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Want a good laugh or have DEEP pockets? How about this? A sensory deprivation tank that's wired for sound. Waterproof remote additional. What's the URL for Kickstarter? --David Listening Room: Mac mini (Roon Core) > iMac (HQP) > exaSound PlayPoint (as NAA) > exaSound e32 > W4S STP-SE > Benchmark AHB2 > Wilson Sophia Series 2 (Details) Office: Mac Pro > AudioQuest DragonFly Red > JBL LSR305 Mobile: iPhone 6S > AudioQuest DragonFly Black > JH Audio JH5 Link to comment
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