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    NAD C 700 Review and Comparison

     


    I've said it before, and I'll say it many more times no doubt, I'm a huge fan of BluOS. I applaud Lenbrook for its herculean effort to create BluOS from scratch and to continue supporting and expanding it over the years. Lenbrook is a blue-chip company, with great people, great products (Bluesound, NAD, PSB), and great support. Audiophiles should put Lenbrook companies near the top of their lists when seeking to upgrade, expand, or find the perfect product, like I did when designing my outdoor audio system

     


    The NAD C 700

     

    C-700-Front-on-white-scaled-e1632152193775.jpgThe NAD C 700 is a BluOS streaming amplifier with tons of features and great versatility. Back in the day people would've said the heart of this product is its HybridDigital UcD amplifier with ultra-low noise and distortion, and focussed mainly on that hardware which drives the loudspeakers. Today, in addition to brawn, products also have brains that are every bit as important. The C 700's brain is the BluOS software that takes this product to another level.

     

    Like other BluOS products from Lenbrook, the C 700 supports more streaming services than most other non-BluOS HiFi product, including Amazon Music Unlimited's lossless high resolution content. Need 63 zones of music? Just add some BluOS components, including the C 700. Need AirPlay 2, Spotify Connect, or Tidal Connect? Same answer. The feature list goes on and on with BluOS. The most important to me is the selection of services for content. If one can't play his/her favorite music, what good is any component? Neil Young Archives, Nugs.net, and SiriusXM are some differentiators for those taking notes. 

     

    On the hardware side, the C 700 is also feature rich. In fact, it's mostly these features that separate it from its cousin the Bluesound Powernode. I used the C 700 on my desktop, connected to a pair of Wilson Audio TuneTot loudspeakers. As a desktop component, I loved the "just add speakers" aspect and a couple features most. 

     

    The physical volume knob is key. I'm a tech geek who loves all things digital, but I also realize that just because we can put something on a phone, doesn't mean it's the best option. Case in point, volume controls. The C 700 can obviously be controlled via the BluOS application on iOS, Android, and even via desktop applications, but it's the physical volume knob that's golden. 

     

    Listening through the C 700 all day as I work, I often needed to quickly mute the volume.  When phone calls came in or my daughter started walking up the stairs to my office, there was nothing better than quickly punching the volume knob on the C 700 to pause playback or spin it down a bit to lower the volume. Everyone who has used a digital system with only a software volume control should immediately see the value in this physical knob. It only takes one important phone call where you fumble to turn down the volume for the first ten seconds of the call, to understand this one. 

     

    In addition to the large volume knob, the C 700's 5 inch color display is a differentiator with a difference as well. Sitting next to my Apple Pro Display XDR and Wilson TuneTots, this display was really nice. Sure, I could've looked for cover art on the BluOS application running on my Mac, but I often take the path of least resistance. Glancing over at the C 700 to see the nicely sized album art, streaming service logo, HR or CD logo, track information and track progress was far more convenient. 

     

    Perhaps the most important features of the C 700 are the input options. Similar to content choices, if a component doesn't offer a way to input one's music from other sources, it's a showstopper. The C 700 is far more than just a digital source with Ethernet, coax, and optical inputs. This component has a couple analog inputs, and both pre and subwoofer outputs. I love the pre out because it enables one to use a different amplifier at some point in the future, without the requirement of upgrading everything. Like the C 700 for its BluOS capability and other features, but want to use a different amp? No problem, use the analog pre out to connect a different amplifier. Options like this are great from the get-go and can prolong the life of a component down the road. 

     

     

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    Listening Through and Comparing The NAD C 700

     

    I used the C 700 on my desktop, but readers must keep in mind my desktop is far from normal. The Wilson TuneTots aren't one's normal desktop speakers, but I feel very fortunate to have these in for review and to listen through them every day. With this in mind, it goes without saying that the C 700 is far from a desktop only component. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of C 700's installed aren't used on a desktop, even though it's great for such usage. 

     

    NAD-C-700-Powernode.jpgGiven the C 700's placement about two feet from my desk chair, I can attest to unit's lack of heat output. I've had everything from class A amps to tube amps on my desk, and I understand full well what it's like to sit next to a heater every day. The C 700 is not a heater. The unit is warm to the touch, but puts out very little heat. It's currently -14º F in Minneapolis, and I could use a little heat, but in the big picture, it's likely a benefit for most users that the C 700 doesn't double as both an amplifier and room heater. 

     

    Listening trough the NAD C 700 connected to the Wilson TuneTots was certainly enjoyable. I recently discovered artist Aoife O'Donovan and her cover of Bruce Springsteen's track Nebraska. The song is on Aoife's solo acoustic album called In the Magic Hour Solo Sessions. Given the laid back nature of this album, it was nice to hear the finesse of the C 700 as opposed to pushing its power capabilities with a Nine Inch Nails album. Aoife's voice and guitar sounded very nice, with the C 700 volume set to 50% as I sat back in my chair to take in her beautiful rendition of Nebraska. Audiophiles seeking the more fine details, reverb tails, and endless decay will need to move up a bit in the NAD line, but what I heard from the C 700 was far from the bottom of the line. This is a very capable component that most listeners will be thrilled to connect to their speakers. 

     

    Pushing the C 700 a bit harder, I turned the volume up to 70% and played Jack White's new track titled Taking Me Back. It's a track full of glorious distorted guitar and powerful kick drums. It's signature Jam White stuff. The C 700 was no slouch, pushing the TuneTot woofers and producing serious volume. The overall sound was certainly something I could live with, even if it was a little flat at its peak. 

     

    Listening to Pearl Jam's 2004 remix of its song Black, through he NAD C 700, was nice and for the most part very satisfying. However, this is where I noticed a coloration to Eddie Vedder's voice. This coloration would likely go unnoticed by many listeners, but because I'm a knuckle dragging audiophile who listens to music ten hours per day, it can jump out at me. This is also when I decided to set my Bluesound Powernode ($949) on top of the NAD C 700 and compare the sound quality of the two units. 

     

    POWERNODE_WHT_Front-Top.jpgListening to Black (2004 remix) through the Powernode revealed much more of Vedder's voice without the C 700 coloration. The Powernode has a purity to it that the C 700 couldn't match. Switching to other tracks, such as the aforementioned Jack White track, there was a sense of much more control through the Powernode than the C 700. 

     

    Based on my listening to both the C 700 and Powernode, both connected to the Wilson TuneTots, I liked the Powernode better. Readers must keep in mind that this is only a single example, using one set of speakers. The TuneTots are the only speakers I have that are reasonable to pair with the Powernode and C 700. Perhaps there are better pairings for the C 700. I really don't know. 

     

    I should also note that the volume levels of these two amplifiers are incredibly difficult to match. The C 700 has a percentage indicator, while the Powernode has no such numerical indication. In addition, the volume curves on these devices are different. Meaning, when the volume is set to half way on both devices, both devices aren't outputting 50% of their power or even the same percentage of their power. This made level matching pretty difficult. I gave it my best shot in order to do as fair of comparison as I could. Certainly not scientific.

     

    Seeking information about the differences between the C 700 and Powernode that could explain the differences I heard, I looked at the specifications. Here are the specs I received from Lenbrook, which could begin to explain some of the differences when paired with the TuneTot speakers. 

     

    Powernode:
    SNR -100dBA
    THD+N, 0.008%
    IHF Dynamic Power 220W (4 Ohms) / 130W (8 Ohms)
    Power 80 Watts per channel
     
    C 700:
    SNR >84 dB
    THD+N <0.04 %
    IHF Dynamic Power 200W (4 Ohms) / 100W (8 Ohms)
    Power 80 Watts per channel

     

     

    Closing Notes

     

    Some important items to consider when looking at the C 700 and Powernode, or other products for that matter, are the speakers paired with the unit and feature set. While I found the C 700 to sound good, but the Powernode to sound better, I'd be shocked if this was the case for everyone. Perhaps there are better amp-speaker pairings than what I used. In addition, the feature sets of these two components are vastly different. Severely reduced inputs and physical attributes may sway people away from the Powernode if items like the physical volume knob and 5 in ch display are desired. I certainly liked them for use on my desktop and can see why others will as well. 

     

    I also want to make note of the fantastic team at Lenbrook. These guys had a responsiveness and willingness to hear me out, that is second to none. When I discovered that the volume control in the lesser-used Mac BluOS app is a bit wonky because it doesn't follow the default natural scroll direction of macOS, the team was quick to note this will be fixed in an upcoming release. Also, I voiced my concern about the C 700's front panel buttons. Not only did the team listen to me and understand my concern, they are taking another look at how the buttons function now and I wouldn't be surprised to see a slight, more user friendly, adjustment in the future. 

     

    The bottom line is that the NAD C 700 may not have been a perfect match for my speakers, but it's BluOS brains remain top notch. The Powernode was a better choice for me, but that's to be expected. If one size fit all, Lenbrook could save itself serious time and money by reducing its number of SKUs down to one. I encourage interested music lovers to consider hardware features and speaker pairings when looking to upgrade or expand their playback capabilities. 


     

     

     

     

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    This graph shows the frequency response of my room before (top) and after (bottom) tuning by Mitch Barnett of Accurate Sound. The standard used for this curve is EBU 3276. This tuning can be used with Roon, JRiver, and other apps that accept convolution filters. When evaluating equipment I use my system with and without this tuning engaged. The signal processing takes place in the digital domain before the audio reaches the DAC, thus enabling me to evaluate the components under review without anything changing the signal further downstream. 

     

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    My RAAL-requisite SR1a headphones using a convolution filter created my Mitch Barnett of Accurate Sound. The blue trace is the raw measurement and green is the corrected response. Here we bring down the two peaks above the green curve, in addition to smoothing out the response.

     

    Here is an article all about the headphone filter - Taking the SR1a to Another Level

     

     

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    Glad to read your review Chris. Because just last month my brother called to ask me what to replace his failing old NAD integrated amp with and I mentioned the C700 to him.

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    8 hours ago, Superdad said:

    Glad to read your review Chris. Because just last month my brother called to ask me what to replace his failing old NAD integrated amp with and I mentioned the C700 to him.

    Hi Alex, I recommend Lenbrook products all the time as well. NAD and Bluesound have some of the best "tools" in the business. When one needs to Geta job done or accomplish a task with multiple requirements, Lenbrook usually has a product to meet that need. 

     

    Plus, I have nothing but great things to say about the people at the company. That really matters to me. Anyone try getting support from Sonos or another large audio / tech company? I'd rather buy a new component than waste weeks hoping for an answer.

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    Chris:

    A great review! 
    I definitely found it interesting that you preferred the Powernode at 1/3 the cost! 
    I’m also aware of some aftermarket products that allow you to mod the Powernode to remove the switchmode power supply so that you can use an external linear power supply. 
    Perhaps that perfect solution for a bedroom system streaming Qobuz? 

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    43 minutes ago, agladstone said:

    Chris:

    A great review! 
    I definitely found it interesting that you preferred the Powernode at 1/3 the cost! 
    I’m also aware of some aftermarket products that allow you to mod the Powernode to remove the switchmode power supply so that you can use an external linear power supply. 
    Perhaps that perfect solution for a bedroom system streaming Qobuz? 

    Thanks for the kind words. I’m glad you liked the review and comparison. It was super easy to compare because I purchased the Powernodes this summer. 
     

    The Powernode is one of the best “tools” in HiFi. So much versatility and such good quality. A bedroom system with this would be great. 
     

    Modding it sounds interesting!

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    I'm two weeks into using BlueOS for the first time and I'm impressed. So far, I'm just using it to stream Qobuz and WFMT Chicago but I'll give Roon a try.

     

    I've owned a few NAD amps and one pair of PSB speakers, all of which were great. One of the amplifiers had a channel failure which, under warranty, was extremely easy to have repaired.

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    I have a number of NAD/Bluesound pieces of equipment including an M33.  The three things that baffle me are:

     

    Why NAD continues to not support DSD.  They have this whole rap about converting the PCM is the same, but it is not.  The problem also remains that with the M33, everything goes through the D/A processor, including the analog input, so that if you even wanted to use a a different DAC that decodes native DSD, you are still out of luck.  Is this the same deal with the C700.

     

    The implementation of Amazon Music is poor, especially compared to what Auralic has done.

     

    In addition, for the M33, they mis-specked the backplate for the USB module so you can't use the USB and HDMI modules at the same time.  They were supposed to correct this, but I haven't yet heard anything to date.

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    3 minutes ago, steveoat said:

    I have a number of NAD/Bluesound pieces of equipment including an M33.  The three things that baffle me are:

     

    Why NAD continues to not support DSD.  They have this whole rap about converting the PCM is the same, but it is not.  The problem also remains that with the M33, everything goes through the D/A processor, including the analog input, so that if you even wanted to use a a different DAC that decodes native DSD, you are still out of luck.  Is this the same deal with the C700.

     

    The implementation of Amazon Music is poor, especially compared to what Auralic has done.

     

    In addition, for the M33, they mis-specked the backplate for the USB module so you can't use the USB and HDMI modules at the same time.  They were supposed to correct this, but I haven't yet heard anything to date.


    I certainly hear you, but I’m willing to bet NAD sees the DSD market as very niche, just like Schiit Audio. It isn’t niche to me as a fan of both PCM and DSD, but I understand not all products are geared toward us. 
     

    What do you like about AURALiC’s Amazon implementation? Just curious. BluOS definitely has a simplified implementation of all streaming services. 

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    It looks more like a normal implementation, where you can see album covers and searching sorting is much easier -- much like their Quboz implementation.  Take a look if you get a chance.

     

    Chris what makes me crazy about the M33 is that everything is digitized, including the analog input.  So even if you wanted to use your own DAC for DSD you can't.  This is different from the implementation on the C658, which I also own.  What was NAD thinking (especially for a high-end priced piece of equipment)?

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    3 minutes ago, steveoat said:

    It looks more like a normal implementation, where you can see album covers and searching sorting is much easier -- much like their Quboz implementation.  Take a look if you get a chance.

     

    Chris what makes me crazy about the M33 is that everything is digitized, including the analog input.  So even if you wanted to use your own DAC for DSD you can't.  This is different from the implementation on the C658, which I also own.  What was NAD thinking (especially for a high-end priced piece of equipment)?

    I totally hear ya. It bugs me when analog is digitized, but in this case the volume control is digital. Everything must be converted. 

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    A timley review...am looking to simplify my desktop system. Does anybody know how much better the NAD M10 v2 is purely in terms of sound quality? In other words, would I really be paying about $1K more just for Dirac and a touch sensitive display?

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    On 1/30/2022 at 8:16 PM, PorkChop said:

    Does anybody know how much better the NAD M10 v2 is purely in terms of sound quality?

    Chris,

     

    I have the same question.  I was thinking of the NAD M10 v2 as a secondary (bedroom) system to drive a pair of KEF LS50 Meta that I have.  I was attracted to this NAD device with the Hypex nCore amp module and the built in streamer/DAC and with the Tidal Connect functionality as I will be primarily streaming off Tidal and just connecting the streaming DAC/amp to my KEF speakers.  However, your review of the C 700 and your comparison to the bluOS powernode has me thinking twice, unless the M10 v2 is a different animal altogether .  

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    I don’t have any experience with the M10 v2 unfortunately. It looks very similar to the C 700, but that’s all I know. 

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    The lack of native DSD playback is a BluOS deal killer for me, but digitizing all signals could be a new trend for integrated amps.  At an extreme, the new Technics SU-R1000 digitizes even the phono input, although it at least can play my sizable collection of DSD files natively.  (On the other hand, it is beyond my means, so, in my own case, any quibbles about it are academic.)

     

    I am looking for a new integrated, but it is increasingly hard to find ones that don't include a built-in DAC.  If you can't effectively bypass a lesser quality built-in DAC, as @steveoatmentioned above, that is a lot of trade-off for the convenience and minimized shelf space of an integrated. 

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    I just bought a NAD C700 and a Vault 2i.  Both are connected to my 5G internet service via a lan line.  The system keeps cutting out.  I can see that both units are working (radio station on, cd playing, or being ripped), but I get no sound.  Just as suddenly the sound comes back on; minutes later it's gone.  The internet service has checked my feed and its clean and clear.  Anyone else experience this?

     

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    2 hours ago, John Hull said:

    I just bought a NAD C700 and a Vault 2i.  Both are connected to my 5G internet service via a lan line.  The system keeps cutting out.  I can see that both units are working (radio station on, cd playing, or being ripped), but I get no sound.  Just as suddenly the sound comes back on; minutes later it's gone.  The internet service has checked my feed and its clean and clear.  Anyone else experience this?

     

    Does it cut out when you're playing local content from the Vault or just when streaming from the internet?

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    Nice review.  I have recently purchased a NAD C700.  I have moved over from a Naim Atom.  I do like the NAD, however I find the lack of ability to 'play' and 'pause' (i.e. start and stop the stream) from the main unit a bit annoying.  I am interested that in your review, you state that pressing the dial pauses the stream/playback.  My unit simply 'mutes' the audio and the stream continues to play.  The small graphic in the lower right still shows active and playing while muted.    

     

    I  have no easy ability to pause of stop playback without using the app.   A bit frustrating as i like to quickly press the unit to stop playback prior to sleep in the evening.  But pressing the dial only mutes the sound and the screen stays on all night.

    Pressing pause on the app, stops the stream and the screen and C700 go to sleep after a short while.  I would like to do this from the main unit.

     

    I have contacted NAD support and they advise this is normal and there is not way to stop/pause the stream without using the app or buy a remote.  Crazy!  Yet this review, and others experiences (same question on facebook forum) indicate that their units actually pause the stream.  Frustrating.

    Anyone else have this issue?

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    1 minute ago, SRJ - NZ said:

    Nice review.  I have recently purchased a NAD C700.  I have moved over from a Naim Atom.  I do like the NAD, however I find the lack of ability to 'play' and 'pause' (i.e. start and stop the stream) from the main unit.  I am interested that in your review, you state that pressing the dial pauses the stream/playback.  My unit simply 'mutes' the audio and the stream continues to play.  The small graphic in the lower right still shows active and playing while muted.    

     

    I  have no easy ability to pause of stop playback without using the app.   A bit frustrating as i like to quickly press the unit to stop playback prior to sleep in the evening.  But pressing the dial only mutes the sound and the screen stays on all night.

    Pressing pause on the app, stops the stream and the screen and C700 go to sleep after a short while.  I would like to do this from the main unit.

     

    I have contacted NAD support and they advise this is normal and there is not way to stop/pause the stream without using the app or buy a remote.  Crazy!  Yet this review, and others experiences (same question on facebook forum) indicate that their units actually pause the stream.  Frustrating.

    Anyone else have this issue?

    I still have the unit. I will fire it up now and test it with the latest firmware updates. 

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    Thank you for your help.  Very interesting.  I will contact NAD again and see why they advise that this is not possible without purchasing a remote!

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    @The Computer Audiophile, Thank you for your video.  I thought I would update you on NAD support reply last night.  NAD deny that pressing the dial will pause playback.  They are adamant that it will only mute playback.  Even after I sent them the video that you provided.  Their reply below;

     

    "Thank you for contacting the NAD Electronics Support Crew.
     
    Currently, that function is muting only the C700 and not pausing the playback.
    As in the previous email have recommended alternative solutions by using an IR remote learning or pausing in the BluOS app. 
     
    We will forward your feedback to our Developer for consideration in future software release.
     
    Thank you for choosing NAD Electronics, HEART+SOUL You Can Hear.
     
    Siedrick S
    The NAD Electronics Support Crew"

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    3 minutes ago, SRJ - NZ said:

    @The Computer Audiophile, Thank you for your video.  I thought I would update you on NAD support reply last night.  NAD deny that pressing the dial will pause playback.  They are adamant that it will only mute playback.  Even after I sent them the video that you provided.  Their reply below;

     

    "Thank you for contacting the NAD Electronics Support Crew.
     
    Currently, that function is muting only the C700 and not pausing the playback.
    As in the previous email have recommended alternative solutions by using an IR remote learning or pausing in the BluOS app. 
     
    We will forward your feedback to our Developer for consideration in future software release.
     
    Thank you for choosing NAD Electronics, HEART+SOUL You Can Hear.
     
    Siedrick S
    The NAD Electronics Support Crew"

    Interesting. You can see the play counter pause and start again when I press the button. 
     

    It even says “paused” on the screen!

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    Update on the issue of dial press making device mute rather than pause;  at the request of NAD, I packaged up the c700 to return for assessment and they agreed to replace if the dial did in fact ‘mute’ instead of ‘pause’.   They said that it was faulty and must be hardware issue.  Local distributor received the unit, did a firmware update and all seemed ok. Dial press now ‘pauses’…. Until they returned it. I put it back in my system at home.  The dial press had mysteriously returned to ‘mute’ function.     After a while I worked out that if there are other power nodes or BluOS on the same system group, the dial press changes function to mute rather than pause.  Sort of makes sense in some situations when you think about it, but NAD support we’re not aware of this feature!!??  I would prefer the pause button did one function as my other power node is in the same large open plan area.  Ideally would like to be able to change this option in settings.  Will have to live with the dial press muting the stream instead of pausing. 
    Hopefully this information is of use to anyone else with similar issue.  

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    2 minutes ago, SRJ - NZ said:

    Update on the issue of dial press making device mute rather than pause;  at the request of NAD, I packaged up the c700 to return for assessment and they agreed to replace if the dial did in fact ‘mute’ instead of ‘pause’.   They said that it was faulty and must be hardware issue.  Local distributor received the unit, did a firmware update and all seemed ok. Dial press now ‘pauses’…. Until they returned it. I put it back in my system at home.  The dial press had mysteriously returned to ‘mute’ function.     After a while I worked out that if there are other power nodes or BluOS on the same system group, the dial press changes function to mute rather than pause.  Sort of makes sense in some situations when you think about it, but NAD support we’re not aware of this feature!!??  I would prefer the pause button did one function as my other power node is in the same large open plan area.  Ideally would like to be able to change this option in settings.  Will have to live with the dial press muting the stream instead of pausing. 
    Hopefully this information is of use to anyone else with similar issue.  

    Very helpful. Thank you!

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    Great article, we'll, articles on this site.

     

    Still have this C 700? I'm thinking going this route vs the power powernode due to the NAD having more ports in the rear.

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    Thanks for the review. I got this with a new pair of Dali Opticon 2 MK2 (4 ohms, 86.5 dB). While listening to loud rock music on Spotify I tried turning up the volume to 77% for a few seconds and instantly regretted it. It sounded flat and like it was stressing the tweeters. Is it possible that the amplifier clipped or that I damaged my new speakers?

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