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    Moving To The B&W 802 D4

    At few days more than a month into my Bowers & Wilkins 802D4 speakers taking the place of their 804D2 predecessors, the initial unboxing and connection euphoria has subsided and I’ve both consumed enough music purposely and walked-in on enough tracks served randomly by Roon to evaluate these speaker’s sound signature – and more specifically, to comment on how they compare to their 804D2 predecessors in case other readers might be considering an upgrade both in 800-series size and generation.

     

    To quickly summarize, if you can afford the upgrade, there is an immediate palpable difference delivered by the 802D4’s.  Without question the bass is more solid and coherent (even though I had long ago augmented the 804D2 predecessors with a 2x7inch PV1D subwoofer, it leaves that combination well-behind), and the midrange is more open and revealing – though this may also come from improved tweeter contributions as well - the fact that I cannot tell which driver is making the magic speaks to the overall coherence, and I suspect it is some of both.

     

    I believe the tech that Bowers & Wilkins has employed to improve this generation of Diamonds is not marketing hype – the increased cabinet stiffness, refined cross-over, improved turbine damping, new midrange driver suspension, and improved tweeter housing design among others - it all works.  Already I’ve experienced many “I’ve never heard that before” moments while listening to the 802 D4s, and I was plenty-happy with the older 804 D2s.  The considerable extra expense, extra mass, and extra imposition on my listening room affected by the Schwarzeneggeran 802D4’s has been worth it to me – I’ve had no buyer’s remorse.  Yes, being recently retired and not of unlimited means, I did have a couple of “I did what?” moments associated with spending half-a-nice-car on a pair of speakers, but never remorse.  Already, many moments of deeper music appreciation have been delivered, and if you are like me - also enjoying movies or binging the latest series with your wife or partner of choice, these experiences too have been elevated.

     

    bw_802d4_one.jpgTo detractors who comprehensively dismiss Bowers & Wilkins speakers as overly-bright, I would first and foremost state the obvious and say that this, like the great majority of choices we make in the “audiophile space” is a matter of taste.  Second, I would be sure to understand their reference point when you consider it.  Are they referencing 800 series or some other Bowers & Wilkins series that does not benefit from the precise and yet refined diamond tweeter? If 800 series, which generation, because each generation also has its own subtly-evolved sound signature. The point is to be careful of un-specified opinions.  What I would objectively report to potential buyers of the 802D4 is that these speakers are truly reference-class, with their larger sibling 801D4 (featuring the exact same turbine head/midrange driver and nautilus tube/diamond tweeter as the 802D4) being employed in some of the top recording studios around the world – thus, they are depended upon to replay the music fed to them as accurately as possible. 

     

    As you would then expect, when properly fed with well-recorded source material through quality amplification, these loudspeakers will bring you closer to an in-studio sound than you have likely experienced before.  Likewise, they will just as faithfully expose poor recordings that are not properly miked, too loud, too compressed, overly brassy or otherwise deficient.  This can be readily demonstrated if you listen to close-miked tracks where peak levels are clearly pushing well into the red, or if already distorted guitar amplification (the good, textured kind) is pushed-up another level to become etched and irritating, to say nothing if you navigate the waters of many 80’s and 90’s recordings (yes – of course there is plenty of quality music from this era, but it seems that recording engineers at the time were mostly sent to the pedal-to-the-metal-school of mastering subtlety).

     

    Audio scholars succinctly characterized the sound of the 802D4’s as monitor-like – and in my listening opinion that is, like the 802D4’s themselves, entirely accurate.  This is not to say that you cannot enjoy a whiskey while you listen to the 802D4’s – of course you can.  Select your source material appropriately, relax and surround yourself with aural goodness if that is what you are feeling.  As an example, Brian Bromberg’s The Saga of Harrison Crabfeathers from the album Wood – (44/16 via Qobuz) will have you sipping that whiskey at the edge of the stage in an intimate jazz club, Brain’s stand-up right in front of you, drums behind, and piano off to the right.  As I drifted into a musical trance enveloped by bass realism, I was honestly tricked for a flashing moment into thinking “this is a night I will never forget”.  No worries, the 802D4’s allow me to recreate it anytime I want.  Isn’t that the repeatable high most of us are striving for in our audio journey?    

     

    bw_802d4_absolute_mobil.jpgLikewise, don’t expect the 802D4’s to make excuses for recordings or sources in your collection or system that are lacking (mine exposed a bad PC audio driver in my first listening days, and I also learned that the 802D4’s do not require the same degree of toe-in as the 804D2’s – the upshot being several instances of significantly-wider sound-staging noted in my listening thus far).  I think accuracy vs. “warmth” or “listenability” is a tradeoff most of us understand.  If you are looking for a speaker to smooth-over everything in your collection and sound “good” no matter what it plays, you should probably consider other options.  If on the other hand you crave an in-home reference experience, and like me are addicted to the visceral reaction that music can trigger when we suddenly hear something evocative or strikingly more realistic from even familiar recordings, then this speaker may well be for you.  The effortless and yet often startlingly-good bass presence alone would be enough for the serious audiophile to justify their purchase.  What I wasn’t expecting was the amazingly open and layer-revealing nature of the midrange and tweeter that goes above and beyond my previous reference, bringing additional life to vocals and revealing new sounds that we all crave in our deep listening sessions.  Placing the 802D4’s into service marks the 5th landmark improvement in sound quality I have experienced in my audio journey of 40+ years.  They are precise, visceral, and highly recommended.

     

     

     

     




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    Here we go, a clip of the actual song,

     

     

    Very instructive to listen to the expansiveness, the "bigness" of what's in the recording; and compare that to the level of 'squashing' of that spaciousness, in the playback capture. Yes, in the intimate parts of the track the system does well, but the often heard inability to properly handle the Big Moments is clear.

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    8 minutes ago, fas42 said:

    Here we go, a clip of the actual song,

     

     

    Very instructive to listen to the expansiveness, the "bigness" of what's in the recording; and compare that to the level of 'squashing' of that spaciousness, in the playback capture. Yes, in the intimate parts of the track the system does well, but the often heard inability to properly handle the Big Moments is clear.


    You don’t even know which master of the song was playing, mp3 or high resolution etc…

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    8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:


    You don’t even know which master of the song was playing, mp3 or high resolution etc…

     

    Ummm, the one tagged in the comments of that clip, by YouTube, possibly?

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    7 minutes ago, fas42 said:

     

    Ummm, the one tagged in the comments of that clip, by YouTube, possibly?

    Not even close. The tagged song is only because it’s recognized by the algorithm for paying the rights holders. Good luck finding an algorithm on YouTube that identifies the source material any more than artist and track name. 

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    In other words, upload a 128 kbps mp3, lossless FLAC, and DSD version, then upload all the different masters. See what the algorithm identifies. It won’t identify much. 

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    46 minutes ago, fas42 said:

    Here we go, a clip of the actual song,

     

     

    Very instructive to listen to the expansiveness, the "bigness" of what's in the recording; and compare that to the level of 'squashing' of that spaciousness, in the playback capture. Yes, in the intimate parts of the track the system does well, but the often heard inability to properly handle the Big Moments is clear.

    via the iMac, I didn't get past 1 minute.  Unless there is video, I cannot see why anyone would listen to music this way unless it isn't available anywhere else.  I'm sure the TV's soundbar would be much more forgiving, but what is the point?  Qobuz has this in 96/24, although it does have shortcomings anyway.  Just curious why you chose this particular song (not my cup of tea).  

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    19 minutes ago, PYP said:

    via the iMac, I didn't get past 1 minute.  Unless there is video, I cannot see why anyone would listen to music this way unless it isn't available anywhere else.  I'm sure the TV's soundbar would be much more forgiving, but what is the point?  Qobuz has this in 96/24, although it does have shortcomings anyway.  Just curious why you chose this particular song (not my cup of tea).  

     

    Because that's the actual track in the video of the B&Ws playing, and I commented on how the system specifically handled part of that track. Music is music ... and this type of track is very good for, er, sorting the men from the boys. On a system well below standard, this will be a raucous mess; with competent replay it becomes a superb, immersive sound experience ... which is why the goal is to achieve a setup at the latter end :). The recording is used to judge the system - not, the system is used to judge the recording ...

     

    The mastering, unless it was used to deliberately trash the recording, to suit the peculiar ideas of the person at the controls - I'm thinking of Iggy Pop here :D - will still sound like something real. I don't think sound engineers are completely brain dead, although I sometimes wonder :), which means that the contents of recordings are still in pretty good shape - given a system good enough to reveal the details properly.

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    3 minutes ago, fas42 said:

     

    Because that's the actual track in the video of the B&Ws playing, and I commented on how the system specifically handled part of that track. Music is music ... and this type of track is very good for, er, sorting the men from the boys. On a system well below standard, this will be a raucous mess; with competent replay it becomes a superb, immersive sound experience ... which is why the goal is to achieve a setup at the latter end :). The recording is used to judge the system - not, the system is used to judge the recording ...

     

    The mastering, unless it was used to deliberately trash the recording, to suit the peculiar ideas of the person at the controls - I'm thinking of Iggy Pop here :D - will still sound like something real. I don't think sound engineers are completely brain dead, although I sometimes wonder :), which means that the contents of recordings are still in pretty good shape - given a system good enough to reveal the details properly.

    You’re killing me Frank. 

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    Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

    You’re killing me Frank. 

     

    Pics, or it didn't happen ...

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    Just now, fas42 said:

     

    Pics, or it didn't happen ...

    Ha! I love that you’re a good sport about it. Thank you for that. 

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    1 hour ago, fas42 said:

     

    Because that's the actual track in the video of the B&Ws playing, and I commented on how the system specifically handled part of that track. Music is music ... and this type of track is very good for, er, sorting the men from the boys. On a system well below standard, this will be a raucous mess; with competent replay it becomes a superb, immersive sound experience ... which is why the goal is to achieve a setup at the latter end :). The recording is used to judge the system - not, the system is used to judge the recording ...

     

    Compared to a Jazz recording at 44.1/16 that I'm listening to right now via my own B&Ws, that 96/24 recording on Qobuz is just OK.    Besides the problem of using computer speakers to some how "read into" what the B&Ws in the video sound like in person (which isn't possible), you would want a very good recording.  Garbage in, garbage out for a transparent system.   

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    21 minutes ago, PYP said:

    Compared to a Jazz recording at 44.1/16 that I'm listening to right now via my own B&Ws, that 96/24 recording on Qobuz is just OK.    Besides the problem of using computer speakers to some how "read into" what the B&Ws in the video sound like in person (which isn't possible), you would want a very good recording.  Garbage in, garbage out for a transparent system.   

     

    Everyone's idea of a garbage  recording is different ... personally, I want everything to work - so, at the moment I'm running this album,

     

     

    How good does it sound, at house filling volumes? Well, it's got Bev out of her chair, bouncing and bopping around to the energy ... clean, clear as a bell, not a thing to complain about. That's the point, not to have good time recordings come over less well than they should.

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    Great discussion. Seems like the dealers Ive been to seem to think the D4 series is a tad smoother on top vs the D3. Again like many here have said you must consider the equipment used and the room acoustics. 

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    1 hour ago, Timobi said:

    Great discussion. Seems like the dealers Ive been to seem to think the D4 series is a tad smoother on top vs the D3. Again like many here have said you must consider the equipment used and the room acoustics. 

     

    I have heard several different models from the D4 line and it really varies. The 805 D4's are stellar and others not so much.

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    Hi Mark - glad to hear you’re enjoying your new speakers. Loving the 205, the best thing since sliced bread. 😄

     

    Russ

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    On 5/5/2022 at 4:03 PM, Rexp said:

    Just trying to help you, if you've not disabled the dsp, its gonna sound off.

     

    I don't understand how we can even think about having a serious discussion of speaker evaluation via YouTube.  Host room acoustics, microphone type and placement, and recording type/processing, etc. present endless sound coloration possibilities.  I am not saying YouTube music is useless.  By all means if it sounds good to you, listen and enjoy - but until there is a heck of an effort by some online store to standardize what we hear "virtually", speaker comparison/auditioning on YouTube seems very risky in terms of making a making a major purchase that you will be happy with in your own listening environment.  And yes, the same applies to evaluating recording qualities.

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    Thanks for your review/comments of your 802D4.  I am trying to decide between the 802D4 vs 803D4.  

     

    If you look at the low freq specs, there does not seem to be much different -17hhz vs 19hz.   And of course, it also has the smaller turbine mid speaker.  Do you have any comments why you chose the 802D4 over the 803D4?  

     

    In my areas, it is hard to demo the two together.  I have auditioned the 801D4 with a MC462.  It was very impressive.  And just by size and weight, and with the same turbine, my gut is that the 802D4 just might a more "true" reference speaker vs the considerable smaller 803D4d-even if the specs seem very similar. Or said another way, with the same tweeter, turbine mid speaker, the only difference is the bass speakers range/sound volume. .  For a lot of music, they should be essentially equivalent- or so it might seem. LOL

     

    Some might say just get the 803D4 and with the savings get a good sub with even lower range than the 802D4.   However, in my experience, this is easier said than done to integrate for music.  And for move sound effects,  I am not sure I would need an expensive sub for rumble, thumps and explosions.

     

    Any thoughts, observation or comments would be much appreciated.  Thanks!

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    8 hours ago, skoor said:

    Thanks for your review/comments of your 802D4.  I am trying to decide between the 802D4 vs 803D4.  

     

    If you look at the low freq specs, there does not seem to be much different -17hhz vs 19hz.   And of course, it also has the smaller turbine mid speaker.  Do you have any comments why you chose the 802D4 over the 803D4?  

     

    In my areas, it is hard to demo the two together.  I have auditioned the 801D4 with a MC462.  It was very impressive.  And just by size and weight, and with the same turbine, my gut is that the 802D4 just might a more "true" reference speaker vs the considerable smaller 803D4d-even if the specs seem very similar. Or said another way, with the same tweeter, turbine mid speaker, the only difference is the bass speakers range/sound volume. .  For a lot of music, they should be essentially equivalent- or so it might seem. LOL

     

    Some might say just get the 803D4 and with the savings get a good sub with even lower range than the 802D4.   However, in my experience, this is easier said than done to integrate for music.  And for move sound effects,  I am not sure I would need an expensive sub for rumble, thumps and explosions.

     

    Any thoughts, observation or comments would be much appreciated.  Thanks!

     

    forget choosing speakers from the spec sheet !

    802 and 803 sound very different and in my opinion there’s a big step in quality. Only your ears can decide for you though…

     

    (I actually prefer the older 802s… either the original (non diamond) or D1s over the D3/D4s)

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    For me, the D4's are better than the D3's. I prefer the 803's or 805's to the bigger speakers of the line.

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    9 hours ago, skoor said:

    Some might say just get the 803D4 and with the savings get a good sub with even lower range than the 802D4.   However, in my experience, this is easier said than done to integrate for music.

     

    I cannot advise on the 802 vs 803 in general, but I know from experience that the B&W DB subs are incredibly easy to pair with the 800 series speakers.  Between the iPhone app and the built in DSP, it is idiot-proof and takes just a few minutes.  The only thing that requires any thought at all is the volume control, which you might tweak by a dB or two over a day or so.  

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    I went through the same 802 vs. 803 thought process, and even though my room is smallish (~13ft x 13ft) decided that since these may well be the last speakers I buy, I did not want to fall short on "integrated" bass.  This was reinforced by the fact that when we "downsize" (kids are out there in the world creating havoc now) I'd like to have a little larger room in our next house to accommodate more people for movies, watching football, etc. (sorry purists - close your ears) - up to 20ft x 20ft or so. I do feel these speakers are a bit big for my room, so depending on your room size, you may want to bias your thoughts accordingly.  I did not know that B&W was doing such a good job with integrating their subs these days, but all things equal, I feel safer with an integrated speaker doing it all.  You also mentioned the 803's smaller turbine head and given how much of what we listen to comes from there, I didn't want to risk not having that full "flagship experience - though I believe Bowers & Wilkens now touts that the 801 midrange driver is even better than the 802 version now, so there's that.

     

    I can tell you that I am STILL (one year on) being impressed on a regular basis by the 802's presentation of tracks/albums that I have not previously played on it (many times with no intention of seeing what a track sounded like with the new speakers - instead just being "struck" during casual listening while I work), and a lot of that tends to be enhanced bass presence and resolution.  Sometimes it is soundstage width and general clarity, which I would attribute mostly to the midrange/treble, bearing in mind that I also moved to an Aurender N200 (from my PC running Roon), which did produce it's own incremental improvement in clean, well-resolved presentation.

     

    So what would I do if I was doing it all over?  With the very positive reviews the 803's have received, I would certainly think very hard about that option if I knew I was going to stay in this smaller listening room.  That said, I know those bass increments - those presented in the specs that is - between models is small from speaker to speaker as you move up and down the line.  I moved up two steps and two generations (from 804D2 to 802D4) and there is no way I'd want to go back.  Even running the B&W PV1-D, with it's 2x8" drivers and dedicated amplification paired with the 804D2's, there is no comparison.  The 802D4's offer much more cohesive, palpable, believable bass.  I suspect the 803D3's would get you most if not almost all the way there in a small room like mine, but physics being what it is, there has to be a room size where the difference between the 803 and 802 is going to be noticeable depending on your particular program material.  I wish I could tell you about B&W sub integration and that you will never want to fiddle with it once it is set-up, but I am biased based on my PV1-D experience.  Don't get me wrong, it helped, but I did keep the app open most of the time to tweak for this or that source.  With the 802's, I never feel that temptation, only the feeling of "Oh God, that's lovely bass reproduction".  Even now, I am listening to Specchio Veneziano Reali Vivaldi, and the strings realism during low reaches is just so damned pleasing. 

     

    I hope this helps and I'm happy to answer more questions.  I'd love to do a write-up about the N200 as well, but I am restoring a '65 Mustang and my writing time has evaporated. :)

     

    Mark

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    6 hours ago, MHWilliford said:

    I went through the same 802 vs. 803 thought process, and even though my room is smallish (~13ft x 13ft) decided that since these may well be the last speakers I buy, I did not want to fall short on "integrated" bass.  This was reinforced by the fact that when we "downsize" (kids are out there in the world creating havoc now) I'd like to have a little larger room in our next house to accommodate more people for movies, watching football, etc. (sorry purists - close your ears) - up to 20ft x 20ft or so. I do feel these speakers are a bit big for my room, so depending on your room size, you may want to bias your thoughts accordingly.  I did not know that B&W was doing such a good job with integrating their subs these days, but all things equal, I feel safer with an integrated speaker doing it all.  You also mentioned the 803's smaller turbine head and given how much of what we listen to comes from there, I didn't want to risk not having that full "flagship experience - though I believe Bowers & Wilkens now touts that the 801 midrange driver is even better than the 802 version now, so there's that.

     

    I can tell you that I am STILL (one year on) being impressed on a regular basis by the 802's presentation of tracks/albums that I have not previously played on it (many times with no intention of seeing what a track sounded like with the new speakers - instead just being "struck" during casual listening while I work), and a lot of that tends to be enhanced bass presence and resolution.  Sometimes it is soundstage width and general clarity, which I would attribute mostly to the midrange/treble, bearing in mind that I also moved to an Aurender N200 (from my PC running Roon), which did produce it's own incremental improvement in clean, well-resolved presentation.

     

    So what would I do if I was doing it all over?  With the very positive reviews the 803's have received, I would certainly think very hard about that option if I knew I was going to stay in this smaller listening room.  That said, I know those bass increments - those presented in the specs that is - between models is small from speaker to speaker as you move up and down the line.  I moved up two steps and two generations (from 804D2 to 802D4) and there is no way I'd want to go back.  Even running the B&W PV1-D, with it's 2x8" drivers and dedicated amplification paired with the 804D2's, there is no comparison.  The 802D4's offer much more cohesive, palpable, believable bass.  I suspect the 803D3's would get you most if not almost all the way there in a small room like mine, but physics being what it is, there has to be a room size where the difference between the 803 and 802 is going to be noticeable depending on your particular program material.  I wish I could tell you about B&W sub integration and that you will never want to fiddle with it once it is set-up, but I am biased based on my PV1-D experience.  Don't get me wrong, it helped, but I did keep the app open most of the time to tweak for this or that source.  With the 802's, I never feel that temptation, only the feeling of "Oh God, that's lovely bass reproduction".  Even now, I am listening to Specchio Veneziano Reali Vivaldi, and the strings realism during low reaches is just so damned pleasing. 

     

    I hope this helps and I'm happy to answer more questions.  I'd love to do a write-up about the N200 as well, but I am restoring a '65 Mustang and my writing time has evaporated. :)

     

    Mark

     

     

    Thanks Mark and the others that responded!   

     

    I think we are kind-on-the-same page. I should have mentioned that the space is relatively large - apron 17ft by 18ft with a small dining room totally open the listening area.  

     

    So the primary drivers for the upgrade to 802D4 vs the 803D4 are:

    1) The listening area just seems perhaps better matched to the 802D4 for music bass support without a sub.

    2) I would rather have the best system integration as possible.  A good sub with 803 would be in the same $$ ballpark as the 802 without.  And probably do movies much better than the 802 without sub. 

    3) I can always add a sub to either the 802/803, but to upgrade later to the 802 from 803  will be a major financial hit and hassle. .Adding a sub to 802 just has lot of option in price, and flexibility- from cheap tmovie hunder/boom subs to musical thunder/boom subs.   For the 803, I would def want a high quality sub for music.  Movies would be a bonus.

    4). The 802 has the same tweeter/mid-range as the 801- just different woofers. I really liked the 801's sound.  I have not heard the 803 with its smaller mid-range and even smaller woofers.  The 802 is a safer be for the same sound in the important highmid-raneet and with the larger room even more so.  I am strongly leaning toward the 802.  But gosh, they re heavy. 

     

    Considerations:

    1) I could always add a sub to the 803, if and when, I think I need it.  I think I like you, will want a sub with even the 803 in large room.  On the other had, It could be just fine.  But if not, the only way out without replacing the 802 is adding  a high quality sub.

    2) Buying the 802 does not necessary meant that someday I would never want a sub- esp for movies.  But for me, movies are secondary to music in any trade-offs. However, getting  the 803 with high quality sub could be perfect- if it can truly be integrated well.  

    3) Overall, without the abilit do any decent auditions of the 802 and the 803 with/without a sub, I am just leaning to go safe and get the 802.    

     

     

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    I agree with your thinking.  And yes - the speakers are beastly, but they also have such a well-designed caster/support system and packaging that the mass really is quite manageable.  The key point is "easy to add a sub to the 802, not so easy to turn 803's into 802's".  Given your room size, I think the 802 is the right choice, and while I cannot speak to your movie watching preferences - some folks love really emphasized bass effects when watching action films as an example - if what you like is realism, you may be pleasantly surprised by what the 802's muster on their own (mine are powered by an MC462).  Excited to hear about what you choose and how you like it!

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    Hi Mark,  I ordered the B&W 802D4 Black.  I also took advantage of the McIntosh Trade-up program to get the MA9500 Integrated amp from a MA7900 Intergrated amp.

     

    Due to some scheduling issues, I may not take delivery until late June.   They will also have to get the Mac shipped from the factory.  I will let you know when I get it setup and get some listening experience.

     

     My current speakers are the Thiel 3.7 and Paradigm Signature S4.  Going to be interesting esp comparing the B&W to the older Thiel, with them being a 1st order crosoverr/time coherent design.

     

     

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    Zippy service compared to my wait (ordered in Sep of 21, delivered Feb of 22).  Thank goodness supply-chain issues are easing.  Very excited for you.  The MA9500 looks very substantial as well - eager to hear your impressions.  What is your primary source, and do you run an outboard DAC or will you depend on the DA2 module (as I currently do)?

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