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    World's First Atmos Music Downloads

     

     

    Perhaps I'm late to the game in discovering that the Norwegian record label 2L is now offering immersive audio downloads, in addition to its physical releases that contain immersive content. To the best of my knowledge, this is the only place in the world to purchase and download Atmos encoded music. I'm having good flashbacks to the days when the first high resolution stereo tracks were available for download, and when computer audio was the Wild West. Hopefully this is a harbinger of good things to come, just like the first high resolution stereo tracks from boutique record labels were. 
     

    Note: Thanks to members of our great community, I just became aware of Immersive Audio Album. The store offers many immersive downloads, including Atmos. 

     

    Now for the caveat. The files labeled Dolby Atmos in MP4 files, are encoded as Dolby Digital Plus. This is the lossy version of Atmos. The same encoding used for Apple Music Atmos and Spatial Audio content (and the same encoding used for 100% of video streaming on Netflix, AppleTV, etc...) Given that "everything" 2L releases is of such high quality, I was a little surprised to see the Atmos downloads are lossy. I had hoped they would be encoded at lossless Dolby TrueHD Atmos, just like the content on the 2L Blu-ray Discs. 

     

    Here is one example of what initially made me think I'd struck gold. The list of options contains DSD, 24/96 and Auto-3D embedded in 5.1 FLAC files. I'm really not complaining, rather more bummed that I can't purchase the TrueHD as a download. I've since ordered the Blu-ray Discs and will extract the TrueHD Atmos that way.

     

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    All is not lost though. The lossy Dolby Digital Plus versions of these 2L recordings are still fantastic. I'm thrilled 2L has started offering Atmos downloads, no matter how the are encoded. We have to start somewhere. Apple Music subscribers can listen to some of these Atmos versions in the Music app. The 2L downloads and the Apple Music Atmos versions are the same, as long as Apple's Spatial Audio isn't engaged for Apple headphones. 

     

    I contacted 2L to ask about releasing TrueHD Atmos, and received a nice response form Morten Lindberg. Morten said 2L's lack of TueHD downloads is because of the lack of software players available for this content. In other words, not many people at home can actually play it. That's something I completely understand, although I'd really love the TrueHD downloads.

     

    The Dolby Digital Plus MP4 Atmos 2L downloads can be played in Apple's Music app on a Mac. Macs have the DD+ decoder built-in, enabling both Apple Music Atmos and local Atmos content to be decoded for playback without an external processor. I was able to play the 2L MP4 files on my Mac and Windows PC using the Dolby reference Player. Using another app without an Atmos decoder, such as JRiver or Audirvana, won't work very well. In that case, I'd just download the FLAC files because the Atmos content isn't being played anyway. 

     

    Maybe someday we'll be able to purchase and download as Dolby TrueHD Atmos files from 2L and other labels. If 2L released the TrueHD content as lossless TrueHD MP4 files, those of us with the capability to decode TrueHD (using either Dolby software or a processor from Trinnov, Lyngdorf, etc...) could really benefit from this. People using Apple Music would still be able to play the TrueHD version, but it would be decoded as Dolby Digital Plus. I'd say this is a win-win rather than giving everyone the lossy files :~)

     

    Anyway, I have a few 2L Blu-ray Discs on the way as well as some from Deutsche Grammophon, with lossless Dolby TrueHD Atmos content. I can't wait to extract the TrueHD audio and listen!




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    I contacted 2L to ask about releasing TrueHD Atmos, and received a nice response form Morten Lindberg. Morten said 2L's lack of TueHD downloads is because of the lack of software players available for this content. In other words, not many people at home can actually play it

     

    What is the down side for 2L if they make it available to download? They obviously have the files if they are available on disc. They could even charge a few extra Euros for making it available.

     

    Is it just that he is unaware that some people can play these downloads?

     

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    8 minutes ago, bbosler said:

     

    What is the down side for 2L if they make it available to download? They obviously have the files if they are available on disc. They could even charge a few extra Euros for making it available.

     

    Is it just that he is unaware that some people can play these downloads?

     

     

    My guess is that while Morten has been busy making music, he didn't realize we could play these files :~) 

     

    Hopefully more people will encourage 2L to release TrueHD.

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    Just tried the 2L's DD+ Atmos .mp4 files. Music app wouldn't recognize it. TV app would open but playback only in 5.1...

    Apple Music DD+ Atmos streaming format is .movpkg? 🤔

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    7 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

    Just tried the 2L's DD+ Atmos .mp4 files. Music app wouldn't recognize it. TV app would open but playback only in 5.1...

    Apple Music DD+ Atmos streaming format is .movpkg? 🤔

    I'm playing them now in Music app on Mac. 

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    This is interesting. Playing them in the Reference Player gives me the right number of channels. iTunes hasn't yet. Still working on it.

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    Hello Chris,
    I had similar experience with downloads from immersiveaudioalbum.com. I found that only one song from this Dolby Atmos download was playable for me. All the rest of the tracks were encoded in AC-4 and neither my oppo player nor the Denon x4500h understood the format. Currently, the successor x4700h is able to decode AC4. However, I have not yet contacted the supplier to point this out. Currently this reminds me of the introduction of the CD and later DAT where the industry tried with all available means to prevent copies. That was the death of DAT. I don't want to derail this thread but the whole thing is not fit for daily enjoyment from my point of view. There is a lack of WAF at all. For me it is important that my wife can enjoy easily 3d Audio, so there is no or less discussion about the amount of Loudspeaker necessary. This should be usable like a Sonos or Apple System with the same quality as we do with a huge amount of technical knowledge or work.
    Now add AC4 to the mix and I have to seriously consider buying a new preamp that can be upgraded if possible. When I look at the situation that Auro-3D is available in lossless Flac, I lack the understanding for Dolby Atmos. With the market power with which Dolby tries to elimate the competitors is already very annoying. Nevertheless, I will also set up my system for Dolby Atmos, so at least set up the speakers so. I had the opportunity to enjoy via Livestreams of the Japanese Wowow channel immersive audio (Auro-3d with 96Khz) and it was remarkable to be in the concert hall on the other side of the earth not only with image but also acoustically in 3d sound. Something that is not possible in Dolby Atmos, as far as i know you can`t encode live in Dolby Atmos.

     

    Last but not least, it is currently also not possible, only at prices such as a Trinnov device, to accomplish a room correction according to individual preference.

    Chris i like you work and digging in that topic and i am looking forward what you will find out.

     

     

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    I am not yet familiar with AC4 as a transport for either DD+ or TrueHD.  I see that the Dolby Reference Player in Windows will decode that. I don’t know what a Mac can do. Chris, I suspect you’ve checked. 
     

    If you run the output of the Music app on Mac or the DRP in Windows, you can use HQPlayer to apply sound correction filters. I use Audiolense XO and it works very well without any Trinnov, Marantz or other MCH preamp.  Superior sound at a substantially lesser price than a big processor. 
     

    I will have to find that Japanese channel.  Actually, can you provide a link?  I can decode Auro-3D through my Marantz AV-8802A processor, but I don’t know of a software-based Auro-3D decoder. Anyone find such a thing yet?  JCR 

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    4 hours ago, Me2 said:

    All the rest of the tracks were encoded in AC-4 and neither my oppo player nor the Denon x4500h understood the format.

    Just curious which album you bought? I'm going to buy one and check.🤔

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    19 hours ago, jrobbins50 said:

    I am not yet familiar with AC4 as a transport for either DD+ or TrueHD.  I see that the Dolby Reference Player in Windows will decode that. I don’t know what a Mac can do. Chris, I suspect you’ve checked. 
     

    If you run the output of the Music app on Mac or the DRP in Windows, you can use HQPlayer to apply sound correction filters. I use Audiolense XO and it works very well without any Trinnov, Marantz or other MCH preamp.  Superior sound at a substantially lesser price than a big processor. 
     

    I will have to find that Japanese channel.  Actually, can you provide a link?  I can decode Auro-3D through my Marantz AV-8802A processor, but I don’t know of a software-based Auro-3D decoder. Anyone find such a thing yet?  JCR 

    This was Test Channel where you had to download a APP and it was only available on the Mac Platform. They plan to bring this available for everybody. Wowow has been a leader in developing and testing transmission techniques for years now and 8K are produced with 22.1 audio. Here are some information about this events:

     

    https://youtu.be/CPp1s_UaSlM

     

    and

    https://youtu.be/uBcyj1OFDI0

     

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    1 hour ago, Me2 said:

    Here another platform where you can download Auro-3D Music but no Dolby Atmos are available

     

    https://spiritofturtle.com/

    Would love to hear some Atmos from Bert van der Wolf. I visited his studio many years ago. 

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    I note that SofT site says that they will provide custom formats. I wonder if they’d do Atmos on request?

     

    To be clear, no one has discovered a software-based Auro-3D player, correct?  JCR 

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    9 minutes ago, jrobbins50 said:

    To be clear, no one has discovered a software-based Auro-3D player, correct?  JCR 

    I haven’t even looked yet. 

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    Just found Norah Jones' Come Away With Me in Atmos. Can't wait Atmos-TrueHD version!

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    I must say, getting into immersive audio has simultaneously got me really interested in classical music. The genre is fantastic for immersive audio. It's kind of funny, the world's oldest music is great for the newest formats.

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    36 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    I must say, getting into immersive audio has simultaneously got me really interested in classical music. The genre is fantastic for immersive audio. It's kind of funny, the world's oldest music is great for the newest formats.

    I am curious.  What aspects endowed by immersive audio are the cause of your new interest?

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    I am a bit confused.  Jriver bitstreams my Tru-HD Atmos files without problem to my Pre/Pro.  My pre/pro decodes the files as Tru-HD Atmos and sends them out just fine to my amps and speakers.  This is the same for PCM, MLP, etc.  I do have to send DSD to an external DAC, but Jriver does that too.

     

    What is the issue?

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    3 minutes ago, mlknez1 said:

    I am a bit confused.  Jriver bitstreams my Tru-HD Atmos files without problem to my Pre/Pro.  My pre/pro decodes the files as Tru-HD Atmos and sends them out just fine to my amps and speakers.

     

    What is the issue?

    Can you be a bit more specific?

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