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    Definitive Guide: How To Copy Favorites and Playlists from Tidal to Qobuz

    The reign of Tidal for audiophiles here in the US is nearly over. Yes, I can't believe I wrote the words reign and Tidal in the same sentence, but it's true. Tidal has been the only lossless streaming service supported on high end platforms here in the US for several years. Hold your letters, calls, and emails to notify me about the lossless service offered by the Scottish Nose Whistle label streaming at 32 bit / 768 kHz. For all intents and purposes in the US it has been Tidal or nothing (unless you wisely subscribed to Qobuz by circumventing the geographic rules). 

     

    In preparation for the October release of Qobuz here in the US, a few of us at CA have been taking the service for a spin. So far, I love what I hear and see. However, the thought of switching from Tidal to Qobuz and manually marking nearly 1,000 albums as favorites again is too daunting. This is the point where everyone who purchases all their music laughs at me and says I told you so. 

     

    Anyway, those of us who are tightly interwoven with Tidal should rest easy. The service called Soundiiz has all of us covered for less than a cup of coffee. Soundiiz can synchronize playlists between services for those of us who subscribe to several. It can also do what many members of the CA Community will happily pay for, copy favorite artists, albums, tracks and playlists from one service to another (Tidal > Qobuz). 

     

    This is the part in the article where I tell all the Tidal users to bookmark this page for future reference. You'll switch to Qobuz (trust me) and this will save you so much time you can actually listen to your audio system rather than mess with a computer :~)

     

     

    Step By Step 

     

    First, signup for Soundiiz and pay the tiny bit extra for the Premium service that enables one to use the Platform to Platform feature.

     

    Second, connect both Tidal and Qobuz accounts within the Soundiiz site / app by clicking on them and selecting connect. Very simple. If you skip this step, there will be another chance to login when conducting the Tidal to Qobuz copy. 

     


    Select Platform to Platform Transfers from the left column, then select Let's Go.

     

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    Select Tidal as your source service.

     

     

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    If you didn't already login to Tidal, you'll get this popup window to do so.

     

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    Select Qobuz as your destination service.

     

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    Select which items you want to copy from Tidal to Qobuz. You can click the gear icon to specify within each category what you want to copy. Click Confirm My Selection when done. 

     

     

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    Make sure everything looks good and select Begin the Transfer.

     

     

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    You can watch the process or even leave the process and wait for an email from Soundiiz the the batch has completed. 


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    When everything is done you'll see the green bars up top and be able to scroll through your content for items that need further attention such as Not Found or partial playlists. 

     

     

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    That's really it. Soundiiz makes everything really easy. Now for some additional details.

     

     

     

    A Note About High Resolution

     

    Some of my albums from Tidal appear in Qobuz as the high resolution versions. This is a cool, possibly unintended feature of the transfer. One strange things happened with the transfer of Jose James' album yesterday I Had the Blues. I have it as a Tidal favorite, but the content is no longer available in Tidal. Soundiiz selected the 24/96 version of this album as my Qobuz version. Not the identical album, but I'll take it. A cursory look of my other albums shows several high resolution versions as Qobuz favorites (nothing to do with MQA).

     

    Here is a shot of my newly created favorites imported from Tidal.

     

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    Jose James album not found in Tidal

     

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    Qobuz has the high resolution version of the Jose James album favorited, even though this wasn't the version favorite in Tidal and Tidal no longer has the album available.

     

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    A Note On Not Found Albums


    Roughly 150 of 1,000 albums weren't found on Qobuz, but this could be the quality of the transfer software in finding the exact version or the fact that I favorited some special version in Tidal and only the standard version exists in Qobuz. Let's take a look.


    Th first album on my list of Not Founds is 12 Years A Slave. Searching both Tidal and Qobuz yields the exact same album with the exact same number of available tracks. Perhaps the fact that the entire album isn't available for streaming has something to do with this one not being identified by Soundiiz. 


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    Searching for Traffic's Mr. Fantasy that Tidal calls the Remastered Remasters, I see both album in both services. Unfortunately Soundiiz couldn't translate the funky title even though both albums have 22 tracks identically named. 

     

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    Finally, searching for The April Maze's album Recycled Soul yields the expected result. It's available in Tidal but not Qobuz, thus the Not Found identifier in Soundiiz. 


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    After looking over several more, it seems that there's a mix of truly unavailable albums, stranger named albums, and different versions of albums between the services. Hopefully Soundiiz will improve at matching the same albums with slightly different titles. 


    After the batch, as Soundiiz calls it, was complete I wanted to export a list of my Not Found albums. Or, at least export a list of albums so I could compare to see which one's I needed to look for in Qobuz. Souniiz's ability to export lists is less than stellar. 

    To view completed batches click on My Batches, then the three little dots on the right for details.

     

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    First, there's no way to export the entire list of items copied from Tidal to Qobuz. Even though it appears in a nice spreadsheet-looking format within Soundiiz, the site can't export this exact view. I tried to work around this limitation by exporting a list of all my albums. I figured the list would contain a single line of all the albums not found in Qobuz and a double line (listing one entry for Tidal and one for Qobuz) for the albums found on both services. This ended in disappointment as well because Soundiiz exports a strange csv file that doesn't separate the Artist and Album when imported into Google Sheets. However, upon closer inspection, one must manually specify the separator as a semicolon rather than a comma during the data import. For some reason, Soundiiz uses a semicolon in its "comma separated value" exports.  

     


    Playlist export

     

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    Albums export

     

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    If you don't click download this file, your web browser may just open the csv and it will look like this.

     

     

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    When you download the csv file and let Google decide what the separator is, the imported data looks like this

     

     

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    After telling Google to use a semicolon, the spreadsheet looks good and one can scroll through to find the non-duplicated rows. These are the row that are found in only Tidal as the duplicated rows show one row for Tidal and one for Qobuz. It would be much better if all the data visible on the batch screen was exported, but this will suffice. 

     

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    Lastly, I thought I could use the filters available within the Soundiiz site to only show the albums that weren't found in Qobuz. This wasn't the case. The one heading by which I needed to filter was called Score, but Soundiiz only enables filtering by Status and Types (artists, albums etc...). The only way I could get a logical list of items Not Found in Qobuz was to sort the Soundiiz batch by Score with Not Found on top. This enabled me to screenshot several pages of items that required further investigation. Far from ideal, but a first world problem indeed. 

     


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    Wrap Up

     

    Although Soundiiz isn't perfect, it's a huge time saver for those of us who've spent years curating a Tidal collection of favorites and playlists. I highly recommend using it if you value your time and if you have more than a couple dozen items you'd like to appear in Qobuz when you switch over from Tidal. 


     

     

     




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    12 hours ago, jaynyc said:

    Hi.  In the 4th paragraph of the post it says

    " You'll switch to Qobuz (trust me) "

     

    What are the top 3 bullet points why a US Tidal user would be compelled to switch to Qobuz?

    On the day that I switched to Spotify premium this was pasted on my Tidal home page on my iPad:

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    I never listen to RAP or even pop music, yet I was continually bombarded with this kind of offensive detritus.

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    Chris- thanks again for great info-i had forgotten about soundiiz and am in process of transferring my 166 playlists to Qobuz(which i have had since at least 2013 with my address being Oneida New France which is what the Northeast would have been called if the French had won on the Plains of Abraham!)

    question- can i transfer all my FLAC/DVD-Audio ripped albums in my iTune library also to Qobuz? if so how? is it the same as Apple Music?

    thanks again bobbmd

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    3 hours ago, rickca said:

    There is currently some integration between Roon and HQPlayer.  I'm expecting integration between Roon and Qobuz in the RMAF timeframe from the hints dropped by @David.. Qobuz, Hi-Res Music Evangelist.  It's possible I'm reading too much into his comments but I don't think so.

    TY. I am already a Roon>HQPlayer user and am hoping to drop Tidal asap, but maintain HQP upsampling and DSD conversion. I prefer to go direct to HQP.

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    5 hours ago, blaven said:

    Does anybody know if there’s any ability to move playlist off of the Aurender software to other software platforms? For example, I would love to transfer some of those playlists from Aurender onto my Roon stuff, or even in Tidal/Qobuz so it could potentially  be used when I’m not at home and streaming to someone else’s device for example or camping and what not.

     

    I only know how to move TIDAL playlists off the Aurender, as I have done this before.  Any TIDAL playlists you have created on the Aurender, are also in the TIDAL app. So, go check, they may already be there.

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    3 hours ago, rodrigaj said:

    On the day that I switched to Spotify premium this was pasted on my Tidal home page on my iPad:

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    I never listen to RAP or even pop music, yet I was continually bombarded with this kind of offensive detritus.

     

    That album is on Qobuz as well.

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    6 hours ago, 4est said:

    I am loving Qobuz so far, and HQPlayer integration would put it over the top in regards to Tidal IMO. If I may ask, what integration is already there? I don't see anything. Then again, I cannot seem to get the desktop app to work. It loads the GUI on Win10,64, but it just sits there unless I am doing something stupid(likely).

     

    Do you have any links or a simple synopsis?

    As of right now I think the only option that I am aware of Qobuz and HQPlayer integration outside of the hints provided by David, is if you are running HQPlayer embedded.  I am currently using it in that manner with Qobuz accessed via BubbleUPnP / mConnect Controller --> --> HQPe UPnP Renderer --> Win10 based NAA --> DAC.

     

    I also believe you can use Audirvana as UPnP front end for Qobuz and send information along to HQPe.  Qobuz is currently working on adding support for UPnP/DLNA to the desktop app.

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    2 minutes ago, shadowlight said:

    As of right now I think the only option that I am aware of Qobuz and HQPlayer integration outside of the hints provided by David, is if you are running HQPlayer embedded.  I am currently using it in that manner with Qobuz accessed via BubbleUPnP / mConnect Controller --> --> HQPe UPnP Renderer --> Win10 based NAA --> DAC.

     

    I also believe you can use Audirvana as UPnP front end for Qobuz and send information along to HQPe.  Qobuz is currently working on adding support for UPnP/DLNA to the desktop app.

    Thank you! Do you know if the desktop app even works at present? Sheesh, I feel stupid, but it just sits there despite my clicking. LOL

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    1 minute ago, 4est said:

    Thank you! Do you know if the desktop app even works at present? Sheesh, I feel stupid, but it just sits there despite my clicking. LOL

    Yes, the desktop apps works fine straight to the DAC but there are stability issues with using it as part of the UPnP controller with HQPe. 

     

    May I request that we move the desktop issue to so we can keep the current thread on track.  If you are still having issues, I can do a quick screen sharing session to see if we can figure out what is going on.

     

     

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    1 minute ago, shadowlight said:

    Yes, the desktop apps works fine straight to the DAC but there are stability issues with using it as part of the UPnP controller with HQPe. 

     

    May I request that we move the desktop issue to so we can keep the current thread on track.  If you are still having issues, I can do a quick screen sharing session to see if we can figure out what is going on.

     

     

    Sorry and ty. I'll put in a support ticket  now that I know that it is just me.

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    42 minutes ago, shadowlight said:

    As of right now I think the only option that I am aware of Qobuz and HQPlayer integration outside of the hints provided by David, is if you are running HQPlayer embedded.

    There is also SuperSonic from Geoff Armstrong.

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    2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

     

    That album is on Qobuz as well.

    Is it on your home page? For example, I'm sure it is on Spotify as well, but it does not appear on the home page.

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    37 minutes ago, rodrigaj said:

    Is it on your home page? For example, I'm sure it is on Spotify as well, but it does not appear on the home page.

     

    I dont know, I am using A+, it opens where I left it, which is Classical music. I went to Discover > All Genres and scrolled down a ways and did not see it.

     

    However, if I am looking at new releases, it is right there.

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    19 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

     

    I dont know, I am using A+, it opens where I left it, which is Classical music. I went to Discover > All Genres and scrolled down a ways and did not see it.

     

    However, if I am looking at new releases, it is right there.

    Right. That is what I mean. When you open Spotify, you get the Overview page. The overview page looks like this:1329971268_ScreenShot2018-08-29at4_45_17PM.thumb.jpg.1143c3b0ca9febb7710d41baace35cf6.jpg

     

    It's comprised mostly of playlists that have lots of followers. Never anything offensive.

     

    When you open up Tidal, you are confronted with whatever JayZ and his organization/artists are pushing. That was my problem with Tidal. 

     

    It's all past tense now for me - Spotify offers what I need until Qobuz comes on board. In fairness to Tidal, I don't think I or any classical music lover was ever their intended audience. 

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    58 minutes ago, rodrigaj said:

    Right. That is what I mean. When you open Spotify, you get the Overview page. The overview page looks like this:1329971268_ScreenShot2018-08-29at4_45_17PM.thumb.jpg.1143c3b0ca9febb7710d41baace35cf6.jpg

     

    It's comprised mostly of playlists that have lots of followers. Never anything offensive.

     

    When you open up Tidal, you are confronted with whatever JayZ and his organization/artists are pushing. That was my problem with Tidal. 

     

    It's all past tense now for me - Spotify offers what I need until Qobuz comes on board. In fairness to Tidal, I don't think I or any classical music lover was ever their intended audience. 

     

    I have never once used the TIDAL app, I have always used either A+ or Roon. Perhaps you should give that a try.

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    At home I use A+ and prior to that I use Lumin App.

    At the gym I had to use the Tidal app and now Spotify app. Unless I'm missing something, I know of no way to get A+ to work at the gym.

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    Chris,

    as always, you are the man....thanks for this but I suspect that Canada will need a VPN.

    wdw

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    21 hours ago, rodrigaj said:

    On the day that I switched to Spotify premium this was pasted on my Tidal home page on my iPad:

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    I never listen to RAP or even pop music, yet I was continually bombarded with this kind of offensive detritus.

     

    Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is.  Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right.  Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year?

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    43 minutes ago, Sevenfeet said:

     

    Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is.  Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right.  Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year?

    I agree, but I only wish Tidal used some sort of intelligence behind the scenes and used people's listening history to promote items they might actually listen to. 

     

    P.S. I love Nicki's Pink Friday ... Roman Reloaded album :~)

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    2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    I agree, but I only wish Tidal used some sort of intelligence behind the scenes and used people's listening history to promote items they might actually listen to. 

     

    P.S. I love Nicki's Pink Friday ... Roman Reloaded album :~)

     

    True.  Apple Music certainly does that (it's part of the setup process).  I can't comment on Spotify since I don't use it anymore.  But even if Tidal does/did have some intelligence regarding what new music shows up on the interface, it's entirely possible for that algorithm to be overridden for specific content (like the owners of Tidal ? ).

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    1 hour ago, Sevenfeet said:

     

    Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is.  Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right.  Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year?

    I understand it bothers rodrigaj, and he’s not the only one. I simply ignore it and go right into search or my favorites. If you asked me what album appears when I open Tidal, I could never tell you -  I don’t notice.  I’m not sure why that is so hard for some other people to do. 

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    So maybe I missed something.  I read the article and most of the posts but why switch from Tidal to Qobuz?  Cheaper, does Qobuz do MQA?  Not interested in Roon what?

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    2 minutes ago, michaelD said:

    So maybe I missed something.  I read the article and most of the posts but why switch from Tidal to Qobuz?  Cheaper, does Qobuz do MQA?  Not interested in Roon what?

     

    Two issues.  First, there have been serious discussion to the long term viability of Tidal regarding its financial situation.  While it's privately held so we don't have a clear picture of what's happening, the rumors have been growing for a while based on the interactions with their content providers.  I'm friends with one of the minority Tidal owners but I've not asked him about it.

     

    Second, there have been more rumors that Roon may add Qobuz as an alternative to Tidal for those that want Roon to front end that streaming service, especially since Qobuz also supports high definition music (but not MQA).  As it stands, Qobuz is not in the United States yet but that day is soon coming.

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    1 hour ago, michaelD said:

    So maybe I missed something.  I read the article and most of the posts but why switch from Tidal to Qobuz?  Cheaper, does Qobuz do MQA?  Not interested in Roon what?

    Qobuz streams not just CD quality but true hi-res (not MQA); the catalog seems to have a better selection of jazz, classical, etc. Not so hip hop oriented. 

    Some of the membership levels in Qobuz give you not only CD and hi-res quality streaming, but also significant discounts on buying music for download. 

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    3 hours ago, Sevenfeet said:

     

    Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is.  Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right.  Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year?

     

    Tidal has it's marketing preferences and I have mine.

     

    Which is why I ended my subscription to Tidal. No problem at all.

     

     

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