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    CAPS Twenty Update, My Music Storage Situation, and Why Audiophiles Need A New iPad Pro

     


    Among the many hats I wear are two that seem antithetical. I love music servers that make life easy and sound great. I also love getting my hands dirty building custom PCs as music servers when the industry doesn't offer solutions that meet my needs. As an example, I'm working on a review of the Aurender N20 music server and absolutely love the simplicity combined with sound quality and customer support. At the same time, I'm tweaking my custom built, water cooled, CAPS Twenty machine to run multiple operating systems and applications for high quality playback. 


    While I put the finishing touches on the Aurender N20 review, I want to share some cool adjustments I've made to my CAPS Twenty server, my current music storage situation, and provide objective evidence why audiophiles need a new iPad Pro. 

     


    CAPS Twenty Update

     

    Attention: This is going to get geekier before it gets better. 

     

    CAPS Twenty is my custom built machine with oodles of horsepower and endless configurability. Its sole purpose, when I built it last year, was to run intensive digital signal processing such as upsampling and room correction. All audio was then sent over my network to an isolated endpoint. Over the last couple months I've been tweaking CAPS Twenty to give me more options and provide a testbed for audio experimentation. 

     

    The original CAPS Twenty had a single NVMe hard drive for the Windows operating system. But, I wanted to try HQPlayer running on Linux and I also wanted to try HQPlayer OS, Jussi Laako's custom built operating system with HQPlayer Embedded installed and all the extra geeky tweaks complete. Rather than swap hard drives, I added them. 

     

    The ASUS ProArt Z490 CREATOR 10G motherboard in CAPS Twenty has two M.2 NVMe slots and three PCIe x16 slots. If that's gibberish to you, I completely understand. Chances are high that what you do for a living would make my eyes gloss over and I'd be lost as well. Anyway, I added a second NVMe drive directly on the motherboard. This enabled me to install HQP OS while maintaining my Windows 11 installation on the other NVMe drive. 

     

    71FTX2Hd7-L._AC_SL1500_.jpgThe above configuration gave me some of what I wanted to test, but not everything. I still needed  a place to install Linux rather than HQP OS. The reason for this is HQP OS is like firmware. It isn't meant to be changed by adding applications or doing one's own tweaks. Installing Linux on a third drive enabled me to eat my cake and have it too. In order to use another NVMe drive in CAPS Twenty, I purchased a PCIe to NVMe adapter. This enabled me to install an NVMe drive directly in a PCIe x16 slot. Note, NVMe drives only use 4 PCIe lanes even when in a slot with additional capacity. The adapter is a Sabrent NVMe M.2 SSD to PCIe X16/X8/X4 Card with Aluminum Heat Sink (model EC-PCIE). It's fantastic by the way.

     

    I didn't want to use a SATA drive connected to the built-in SATA ports on the motherboard because the slots are difficult to access with my water cooling reservoir and NVMe is just faster. 

     

    I also purchased a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drive (model MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) on which to install Linux. This NVMe drive is PCIe 4 and works great in my motherboard's native PCIE version 3 slots. I just don't get the full speed of the drive in this slot. When in doubt, get a Samsung NVMe drive. There are many cheaper drive available if you want to mess around, but Samsung makes the best M.2 NVMe storage in my opinion. 

     

    Three NVMe drives gives me very fast storage on which to run Windows, Linux, and HQP OS. When CAPS Twenty boots up, I just select the drive I want to use and that's it. The PC is set to default to HQP OS as that's my current preferred way to do things. 

     

    The Windows 11 installation runs HQPlayer desktop and a host of other apps that I want to test, including Roon Server, MinimServer, JRiver, Audirvana, Vox, and many more. HQP OS is only HQP OS. Don't mess with it. 

     

    On the Linux drive I installed Ubuntu 20.04 and HQPlayer Embedded as a starting point. But, there's no point in leaving only HQPe on a Linux install without making adjustments or installing other apps. I also tried several UPnP/DLNA servers on this machine such as MinimServer, MiniDLNA, and Asset UPnP. I mainly wanted to see if I could get gapless playback working from a UPnP/DLNA server to HQPe, if I has very fast storage and tried some local files. That whole testing is a topic for another discussion. 

     

    I also like Linux rather than HQP OS because I can remotely connect to it via SSH and restart the machine or do whatever I need to do. However, I recently purchased a Ubiquiti UniFi SmartPower Strip (model USP-Strip-US) that enables me to cycle the power on the machine remotely, but that will only make it boot to the default drive HQP OS. The little things :~)

     

    After testing many things, I settled on a slightly different configuration. This configuration also leads into my music storage configuration I'll discuss below. I left Windows 11 installed and HQP OS installed on their respective NVMe drives (on the motherboard). I repurposed the Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drive to be a 2TB music storage drive. This enabled me to run HQP OS with super fast local storage. This is a huge benefit when rescanning one's library within the HQP OS web interface. It's so quick! 

     

    Those learned in HQP OS are probably wondering how to get music on the NVMe drive that's for HQP OS given HQP OS doesn't make this easy. Sure, I could attach a USB drive and copy or map a network drive and "cp -v -r -u" from drive to drive, but there's an easier way. I formatted the NVMe drive with the exFAT file system. This makes the drive readable and writable by Windows, Linux, and macOS. To add music to the drive I boot into Windows 11, copy my music, then reboot into the default HQP OS and rescan the drive using the HQP OS web interface. It's really very simple.

     

    The current CAPS Twenty machine in dual boot Windows 11 and HQP OS, with a 2TB NVMe drive for music storage. What about my other 8TB of music? Read on. 

     


    My Music Storage Situation

     

    I finally realized I have too much music baggage. Over 10TB of music causes problems. I can't use a single SSD to store it all, I can't use simple solutions for external drives (my 16TB backup spinning drive is way to slow for me), and the cost to do anything with multiple drives annoys me. I know, the sales tax on my speakers costs more than multiple NVMe drives, but it's just a thing I have with technology. These drives will be much cheaper in no time.

     

    The solution to my music baggage problem is to have a condensed directory that I call Current, with all the music I can't stream, special versions like MoFi, and other albums I want locally. The rest is put in a directory called Archive. Both directories are stored on my QNAP NAS. The key for me was to reduce the condensed Current directory down below 2TB because the cost of 2TB drives is relatively inexpensive and they are available everywhere. I still have search capabilities of both Current and Archive directories and when I need to move an album from the archive to the current directory, it's fairly simple to do so.

     

    Some apps work well with music stored on a NAS while others really like local storage. As an example, Roon often won't see music added to NAS storage without a forced rescan of the drive(s). In addition, my Aurender N20 has built-in storage and all the benefits that go along with it, such as enhanced search capabilities and quick library updates. 

     

    My solution to getting music everywhere I need and having a gold copy on my QNAP NAS is fairly straight forward, but not without inherent issues. On the QNAP I setup one-way sync jobs to copy the Current directory from the NAS to the NVMe drive in CAPS Twenty, the internal storage in the Aurender N20, and both Current and Archive directories to the 16TB USB drive attached to the NAS.

     

    Copying music from the NAS to any location is as simple as clicking the Sync button. Only the changed or added files are copied and I don't have to babysit the job. A log is kept and a warning is displayed if there are any issues. For example, when I add music to the QNAP, I click sync on the job named Aurender N20 and the new music is copied to the Aurender. 

     

    What are the hangups? If using the Aurender ACS10 music server with the Aurender ACS app's built-in editing features, only the music on the ACS is edited. I could try to create a job that copies those changes from ACS10 to the QNAP, but that removes my single source gold copy system and doesn't feel right to me. Perhaps the middle ground is to use an app like MP3Tag to edit the files on the QNAP, and run my normal sync jobs back to the music locations. 

     

    The last hangup is the amount of data copied from the QNAP to the CAPS Twenty NVMe drive when synchronized. For some reason, the QNAP sends much more data than what was changed. It sees changes in the files on the NVMe drive when there weren't any manual changes made. This results in several more GB of data being copied to the NVMe drive than needed. It isn't a showstopper, just an annoyance. 

     

    An example of how this works lately with HQP OS on CAPS Twenty. Using the excellent HQPDcontrol v4 app I browse the library stored on the local NVMe drive. When I see metadata that isn't correct, I open MP3Tag and edit the album on the QNAP NAS. Then I reboot CAPS Twenty into Windows and run a sync job on the QNAP, that copies the music I edited. Once that's finished I reboot CAPS Twenty into HQP OS and rescan that libray via the web interface and run a sync in the HQPDcontrol v4 app. It really sounds much worse than it is, but I also understand the simplicity of something like an Aurender ACS with all the music stored locally and editing functionality right in the app. I like and use it all :~)

     


    Why Audiophiles Need A New iPad Pro


    M1.jpgI recently wrote about using the new JPLAY for iOS app. It's a UPnP/DLNA control point with built-in Qobuz and Tidal support. It's fantastic! This app works a bit differently than most other apps and can be demanding of the iPad or iPhone on which it's running, if one's library is significantly large. I should mention the app is only demanding when scanning the library, not everyday use. It's architected this way for reasons that improve performance overall, that I'll get into when I publish a full review of the app later. 

     

    My 300,000 track total library (Current and Archive directories mentioned above), took hours to scan with JPLAY for iOS and my iPad Pro 12.9" 2nd generation from 2017. Scanning for library changes was significantly shorter, but still longer than I'd like. I tested some others such as Lumin's iOS app and they were faster but still less than ideal for my attention span (and how often I need to rescan for testing and writing articles). 

     

    As one test, I installed the Lumin app on my Mac Mini with M1 chip. For those who don't know, many iOS apps also run great on macOS with hardware that has Apple Silicon. The Lumin app was blazing fast on my Mac Mini. The two things at play here were horsepower and wired Ethernet. It was time for me to get a new iPad Pro with M1 chip. 

     

    I purchased the iPad Pro 12.9" (5th Generation) with 128GB of storage. The 1TB and larger models have 16GB of RAM, but for most apps, Apple limits their use to 5Gb max. This can be changed if the app requests more RAM in iOS 15, but the details are very foggy at this point. My iPad Pro has 8GB of RAM. This is more than enough right now. I purchased the 12.9" model rather than the 11" model for one reason, heat dissipation. The M1 chip inside both models is only limited by heat. The 12.9" iPad Pro offers roughly 10% better performance than the 11" model due to better heat dissipation. 

     

    The first thing I did when I got the new iPad Pro home was install JPLAY for iOS, Lumin, and the other HiFi related apps. The performance difference between the 2nd generation and 5th generation iPad Pro was shocking. I'll let the objective data speak for itself in these screenshots. 

    Using MinimServer installed directly on my QNAP and only looking at my Current music directory (roughly 2,400 albums), I told JPLAY for iOS to scan the library. The first scan was as if the library was new. I started from scratch. JPLAY calls this Sync Data (Sync all library data). Once that completed, I ran a scan for only the changes. JPLAY calls this Sync New Data (Sync new albums and tracks).

     

    As you can see in this first image, Lap 1 is the time it took JPLAY to complete the initial Sync Data scan and Lap 2 is the time it took for JPLAY to complete the Sync New Data scan. 

     

    The Sync Data scan took 35 minutes and the Sync New Data scan took 4:41. Remember, this is a 2,400 album subset of my total library. Running these scans on 300,000 tracks was something I had to do overnight. 


    Sync Data = 35:00 (minutes:seconds)
    Sync New Data = 4:41 (minutes:seconds)

     

     

    iPad Pro 2nd Generation JPLAY iOS.jpg

     

     

     

     


    This image below is doing the exact same thing with the iPad Pro 12.9" (5th Generation). The M1 chip is sensational. This performance increase is otherworldly, and why I said that audiophiles need a new iPad Pro in the title of this article. That isn't clickbait. That's the truth, backed by objective data.

     

    The initial library scan (Sync Data) took 45 seconds and the follow up scan (Sync New Data) took 11 seconds! This is insane in the best way!

     

    Sync Data = 00:45 (minutes:seconds)
    Sync New Data = 0:11 (minutes:seconds)

     

     

    iPad Pro 5th Generation JPLAY iOS.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

    I also ran a test on the Lumin app, but forgot to run it on the old 2nd generation iPad before selling it to a friend. People can extrapolate from my 2,400 album library to their own if they want to estimate performance differences. Below is a screenshot of the time it took the Lumin app to scan the library and process the library. This is different from how the JPLAY for iOS app tests went. 

     

    Lap 1 shows the original scan of the MinimSever library took 17 seconds. Lap 2 shows the processing of that data took 1:22. I used the only indicator I know of in the Lumin app to judge when processing was complete. The little circle "thing" next to the album count stopped spinning after 1:22 and the libray was ready to rock. 

     

    Based on some recent conversation in the Audiophile Style forum, I think this performance is sensational.

     

    Original library scan - 00:17 (minutes:seconds)
    Library processing - 1:22 (minutes:seconds)

     

     

    iPad Pro 5th Generation Lumin.jpg

     

     

     

     


    Wrap Up

     

    That's a wrap for my update this week. Before I conclude, I have to recommend a great USB C to USB C cable to charging iPad Pros and other USB C devices. I've long been a fan of Native Union cables. The last a long time and are flexible. I just purchased the Native Union Belt Cable Pro (USB-C TO USB-C) 8-foot 100W cable and it's the best one yet. Other than the normal Native Union features such as the aforementioned flexibility and longevity, the braided cable is a nice touch. But the best feature is the little light that illuminates in the connector when the device is connected to power. Call me say to impress, but it's nice to see a little light illuminate upon connecting my new iPad. It removes any ambiguity. I know the thing is plugged into the wall and the iPad and it's charging because the light is on. The simple things in life :~)

     

    I'm not an affiliate and don't get any compensation for this recommendation or link. I just like the product and want to share it with others - Native Union Belt Cable Pro

     

     

     

     

     




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    Just now, joelha said:

    You just cost me $1,000, Chris. 

     

    But I'm going to forgive you because you've written another great article. 

     

    Thanks for that. 

     

    Joel

    Thanks Joel. It's totally worth it. I held out for the longest time, thinking it wasn't going to make that big of a difference. The evidence shows this is an amazing upgrade.

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    I tried the new M1 iPad Pro at the store not expecting it to be as awesome as it is. I had to have one after that. It's incredible.

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    Holy smokes, anything to reduce the time to update is welcome, but at these speeds, it's up there with Roon and Jriver on a local drive to catalogue new files, maybe even surpassing them.

     

    Yup, my main gripe was with the Lumin app update time, fixed one part of the problem with the network speed , now the rest needs a faster processor, makes sense if you compare an M1 with a '386'.

     

    Thanks @The Computer Audiophilefor the data measurements and like @joelha  to spend $$$, again. Anything to remove the 'please wait  technology' whoever invented that needs a swift kick in the rear 🤨

     

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    Yes, but with the screen quality of the 12.9 inch and its 5G download speed, watching movies is competing with music...🤑 It has definitely become my do it all device.

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    Hi Chris.

     

    I agree Samsung NVMe is the way to go. (Not that either you or Samsung need my agreement, but just thought I'd say it.)  Thanks for mentioning the Sabrent - nice to know if I ever need an adapter for an extra NVMe drive.

     

    Wondering whether the extra transfers have to do with files or file characteristics that may have been changed without your manual intervention.  This can happen, as I'm sure you know, either when transferring between different OS filesystems (I feel that Windows in particular likes to throw "hidden" files into folders), or if something like a file timestamp is altered automatically.

     

    Maybe check using rsync/rclone set to leave out some types of files, timestamp changes, or various other things, and see whether it makes any difference?

     

     

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    If you're looking for an nvme with absolute speed and durability, then the 4TB Seagate Firecuda 530 has to be the one.

     

    https://www.seagate.com/products/gaming-drives/pc-gaming/firecuda-530-ssd/

     

    If you can find one for sale... the 2TB has the same specs for speed and durability as well, the 1TB and lower models are slower.

     

    edit: And you can get it with an included EK heatsink if you need one.

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    1 hour ago, Jud said:

    Hi Chris.

     

    I agree Samsung NVMe is the way to go. (Not that either you or Samsung need my agreement, but just thought I'd say it.)  Thanks for mentioning the Sabrent - nice to know if I ever need an adapter for an extra NVMe drive.

     

    Wondering whether the extra transfers have to do with files or file characteristics that may have been changed without your manual intervention.  This can happen, as I'm sure you know, either when transferring between different OS filesystems (I feel that Windows in particular likes to throw "hidden" files into folders), or if something like a file timestamp is altered automatically.

     

    Maybe check using rsync/rclone set to leave out some types of files, timestamp changes, or various other things, and see whether it makes any difference?

     

     


    I think you’re on to something Jud. Booting into Windows is likely doing something to the files metadata. I will run some tests to see if I can figure it out because it would be really nice to get it working flawlessly. 

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    Great article again, Chris.  Just ordered the 12.9" and it will become my perfect new audio room remote!!

     

    Somewhat OT: how did the Win 10 to Win11 migration go?  Is it worth it?  My stalwart Win 10 Pro i7-6700k HQP server is running fine but wondered if "going to eleven" makes sense here, either admin-wise and audio-wise.

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    39 minutes ago, ted_b said:

    Great article again, Chris.  Just ordered the 12.9" and it will become my perfect new audio room remote!!

     

    Somewhat OT: how did the Win 10 to Win11 migration go?  Is it worth it?  My stalwart Win 10 Pro i7-6700k HQP server is running fine but wondered if "going to eleven" makes sense here, either admin-wise and audio-wise.

     

    Thanks Ted. 

     

    I need to spend more time with 11 in order to render an options. It's certainly different.

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    2 hours ago, ted_b said:

    Great article again, Chris.  Just ordered the 12.9" and it will become my perfect new audio room remote!!

     

    Somewhat OT: how did the Win 10 to Win11 migration go?  Is it worth it?  My stalwart Win 10 Pro i7-6700k HQP server is running fine but wondered if "going to eleven" makes sense here, either admin-wise and audio-wise.

    Ted, I don't think a 6th Gen Intel CPU is Win 11 compatible. I seem to remember that it had to be 8th Gen or later. There is also the possibility that your MB may not be compatible either. There is a list somewhere where you can confirm this. I just can't remember where it is right now. It was several months ago when I checked. Win 11 requires a TPM 2.0 module and secure boot at a minimum.

     

    That said I have been very happy with Win 11. It seems much more stable and quicker to me and I have noticed that I can run Roon and HQP together now without any problems where I used to get drops on Win 10 from time to time. I use my i5 8400/Win 11 fan-less machine mainly as a Roon server and my Mini M1 as the HQP SDM processor for my Spring 2 but I kept my Windows Desktop license for HQP so I would have a backup and for testing and I also use it to feed my ML 390s Processor PCM.

     

    You probably need to wait for Win 11 until you get your next server machine.

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    When I got my 3rd gen, 2018 iPad Pro 12.9", it was all about using it as the best control point for my music system. And since then, it's been the best control point for my music system and overall experience. It's so much better and more immersive and convenient for consuming media while listening to music. Better than a laptop and way more immersive than a TV. It's fantastic, and the 2021 device is similar all around. The gen 1 and gen 2 iPad Pros never really had the whole package together for me. 

     

    What I was really intersted in about the 2021 iPad Pro 12.9" with the M1 chip was not the M1 chip, but the Liquid Retina XDR display. The verdict is still out for me on the display part, it's not a full upgrade over the 2018 and 2020 screen, but the the M1 chip was less attractive simply becasue the 2018 iPad Pro was already the hilariously fastest thing I've ever used. I wonder how the comparison would go versus the 2018/2020 iPad Pro, since there was a pretty decent CPU upgrade then, besides the total external overhaul.

     

    Anyway, thanks for the update and news. Good to get the word out about the iPad Pro for music, hopefully it encourages more developers to do cool stuff for us. It's the best media consumption and experience device out there.  

     

     

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    Has anyone found a cheaper alternative to the Magic keyboard?

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    4 hours ago, ted_b said:

    Has anyone found a cheaper alternative to the Magic keyboard?

    Oh, the choice of wireless keyboards, many just sucked. But there's one that had stayed on the desktop for well over a year now.

     

    Logitech MX keys. 

     

    Can match with 3 devices, feels solid and heavy, battery lasts about 3 months of daily use before recharging via USB-C. Illuminated keyboard at the right time and no lags. The MX keys is wider than the iPad, it also sports a real number keypad.

     

    I also have the magic keyboard, but it's very light, loses connection at the wrong times and replaceable battery life should be better.

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    I have both the Logitech MX Master3 Master3 Mac wireless mice and I also have the MX Keys keyboard. They're some of the best peripherals I've used, and easily the best wireless ones. The multiple pairing thing is a cool feature, but it's the overall build quality and execution that sold me. 

     

    However, I don't know how they compare price wise to the Apple wireless keyboard or mice options. 

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    If someone is using Fibre Optic cable from the network switch (Ubiquiti) to a Lumin X1 DAC (or a Sonore OpticalRendu and a USB DAC).  Assuming that the computer running ROON Core is more than powerful enough but not optimized for audiophile silence. Does sound quality improve if one is running a customized music server, such as this CAPS 20 or Aurrentder et al, If it does improve what is the reason for that?

     

    My understanding of the problems with network streaming was the analog noise seeping into the network and then getting into the DAC. This supposedly cannot happen when using Fibre Optic cable. What am I missing with regards to the need for a audiophile grade music server even when using Fibre?

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    20 minutes ago, yyz said:

    If someone is using Fibre Optic cable from the network switch (Ubiquiti) to a Lumin X1 DAC (or a Sonore OpticalRendu and a USB DAC).  Assuming that the computer running ROON Core is more than powerful enough but not optimized for audiophile silence. Does sound quality improve if one is running a customized music server, such as this CAPS 20 or Aurrentder et al, If it does improve what is the reason for that?

     

    My understanding of the problems with network streaming was the analog noise seeping into the network and then getting into the DAC. This supposedly cannot happen when using Fibre Optic cable. What am I missing with regards to the need for a audiophile grade music server even when using Fibre?

    This is a discussion for another topic for sure. It’s a good one. 

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    Chris

    Why don’t you run a raid 0+1 ?  (Spinning disks). Wouldn’t that give sufficient performance if the OS is on a stripe with 2TB NVMe, if your Qnap has this option? (My TS253D has with an extra PCI card added). 
     

    How about using virtualization on that Caps ? It certainly has the HP, and you can run multiple OS and systems simultaneously. Hope you can test this out with two fast disks in a stripe. 
     

     

     

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    8 hours ago, R1200CL said:

    Why don’t you run a raid 0+1 ?  (Spinning disks). Wouldn’t that give sufficient performance if the OS is on a stripe with 2TB NVMe, if your Qnap has this option? (My TS253D has with an extra PCI card added). 

     

    What's the advantage of doing this compared to what I have now?

     

     

     

    8 hours ago, R1200CL said:

    How about using virtualization on that Caps ? It certainly has the HP, and you can run multiple OS and systems simultaneously. Hope you can test this out with two fast disks in a stripe. 

     

    HQPlayer needs direct access to the hardware. Virtualization won't work. 

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    It looks like the iPad Pro same chip set as a Mac Mini. Sorry if this was mentioned as I didn't read all comments, but seems like it has the power to be a music server running Roon Core, Audvirana or whatever. I would gladly buy one if I could get rid of my server. Why limit it to just being the remote?

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    1 hour ago, bbosler said:

    It looks like the iPad Pro same chip set as a Mac Mini. Sorry if this was mentioned as I didn't read all comments, but seems like it has the power to be a music server running Roon Core, Audvirana or whatever. I would gladly buy one if I could get rid of my server. Why limit it to just being the remote?

    Yes, same chip. while the iOS apps can tun on the new Mac Mini (M1), the reverse isn't true because it isn't possible to install the software on the iPad. If I could run the install on the iPad, I'd try it. 

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    So it would be up to Roon to write a Core App for the iPad. Not holding my breath. It would also be limited to users who do not store their libraries locally. Mine is on an NAS but for those using large internal or USB attached drives it wouldn't work.

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    The iPad Pro arrived today, it's the cheapest M1 with no LTE SIM, just wireless, 11inch 128GB.

    Downloaded and started the Lumin app. Dragged in 8701 albums in less than 8mins, I didn't time this.

    Added about  6 new albums to Minimserver, Rescan from the server, and waited, and waited. About 7 minutes passed. The Lumin app automatically rescans/updates when Minimserver goes offline/online.

     

    Tried adding a double album on its own.

    15:11 Rescan Minimserver (took about 10s or less)

    15:11 Noted the spinning circle in the Lumin App about 5s after Minimserver re-started

    15:15 New album appeared in the Lumin app.

     

    I tried to connect to 2.4 GHz network, but the iPad couldn't connect to this, as there were too many other networks in the near vicinity. Messed about with a few channels and settings, iPad could not connect. Poor thing is confused. So connected back to the 5 GHz network and all OK with iPad.

     

    Well, 3 minutes saved is better than the 7 or 10 minutes with the older iPad with just adding the one album. Was it worth the $1000 for the iPad Pro? No. Sensational? A matter of debate, since great results require a small file library, who has this??

     

    Based on the number of albums in Chris' article of 2400 versus 8701, if there's an extrapolation, the times are linearly in the ball park, basing the total processing time of 99s in the article above, with 3.63 times the number of albums, that ends up at close to 6 minutes to finish the processing from scratch.

     

    Time to play some CDs or an LP and leave computer audio off for the moment.

     

    Roon could index new entries in seconds, but I can't go back to the close to 30GB of downloaded data and the average SQ that went with it.

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