Audiophile Style State of the Union

17 hours ago, thyname said:

You are totally missing the point with this move Chris @The Computer Audiophile. The “objectivists” post in all audio forums with a purpose: to save the poor souls from the evil of snake oil and high end audio charlatans and scammers. They already have their own site somewhere else (we know where). But they cannot save anyone there, as they are all saints. So they need to go to other places to do the saving. Like good missionaries. If they all talk between themselves, it’s very boring, and serves no purpose.

 

Bottom line: this ain’t gone work. Look up the meaning of “missionary” in dictionary. They need to go places

Not all evidence-based audiophiles are "missionaries". 

18 hours ago, thyname said:

You are totally missing the point with this move Chris @The Computer Audiophile. The “objectivists” post in all audio forums with a purpose: to save the poor souls from the evil of snake oil and high end audio charlatans and scammers. They already have their own site somewhere else (we know where). But they cannot save anyone there, as they are all saints. So they need to go to other places to do the saving. Like good missionaries. If they all talk between themselves, it’s very boring, and serves no purpose.

 

Bottom line: this ain’t gone work. Look up the meaning of “missionary” in dictionary. They need to go places

This might sound convincing coming from somebody else, but considering your personal "missionary" work on ASR, including name calling, cursing, and violent arguments, this might ring somewhat hollow.

Anyone else think all the rich chocolatey goodness has long since been drained from this discussion (unless someone comes up with a brilliant alternative)?

37 minutes ago, Jud said:

Anyone else think all the rich chocolatey goodness has long since been drained from this discussion (unless someone comes up with a brilliant alternative)?

I disagree.

We need a good Airing Of The Grievances from time to time:

5 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

I disagree.

 

We need a good Airing Of The Grievances from time to time:

 

 

 

 

 

Only if accompanied by Feats of Strength. 😉

4 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

This might sound convincing coming from somebody else, but considering your personal "missionary" work on ASR, including name calling, cursing, and violent arguments, this might ring somewhat hollow.

I looked this up, if this is the thread you're talking about, https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/uptone-audio-etherregen-switch-review.10232/ - and I am fully on the side of thyname here ... I see members of ASR frothing at the mouth with a desire to take offense at a subconscious mistake; and in spite of thyname trying to get it to settle down, the members refuse to be reasonable, and keep trying to escalate the vitriol ... hmmm.

5 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

I disagree.

 

We need a good Airing Of The Grievances from time to time:

 

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 ..which led to the inevitable cathartic atonement 😄

41 minutes ago, DuckToller said:

Frank, I decided to NOT bring that issue openly to discussion here in this threat. I have  sent you a pm instead, hoping you could as well refrain from discussing thyname's behaviour over at ASR, because I regard that discussion as unhelpful at Audiophile Style.

But it's OK for @pkane2001 to deride his contribution here, on the basis of supposedly bad behaviour on another forum? 🤨

There is a whole lot of you that take this internet thing way too seriously...

Does anyone here still enjoy music?

On 2/17/2020 at 1:02 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

People are taking this way over the top and thinking I am anti-engineering for some reason. I'm anti-fighting when this is supposed to be fun. Providing a space for both parties to discuss topics is idea.

This discussion is a slice of the discussion life on AS....how could it be anything else?

I support what Chris is trying to do

I do not believe the issue really is the defined categories...subjectivists and objectivists, which carry their own inherent biases. But I get the need to do something. And, let's see how it works. Go for it Chris.

I think at a human level, some people are in love with their own ideas and that shows by how they promulgate the same ideas over and over in situations where the ideas are not wanted or are specifically germane to the original question and where the ideas move the thread from the original intent to the "interloper's"intent.

Chris can try...and it will be a lot of work for him, but my experience in organizational development tells me that ONLY the group can control itself by changing the unwritten rules of the group's culture.

This is  power struggle between those group members who 'want subjects to start on topic, who value civility in forums such as this...people who are willing to 'let it go to keep the process civil' and those group members who value their freedom to respond exactly how they want.

Chris wants his life's work to be successful and not go the 'way of the internet'....while others love the way of the internet. It doesn't have much to do with objectivists and subjectivists. Those are labels that people are using that really are more related to their interactional style.

It is up to the group:

If you post and you believe someone is antagonistic...do not post back. Let it go and if they push, do not respond...your manhood or womanhood is not at stake.

If you start a thread and someone takes it to a different place than you intended and it is clear they are pushing their own agenda, remove them, it's your thread.

21 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

Chris, in my opinion the state of Audiophile Style is not good. I've been tracking visits to the site since late 2016 and it sadden me to see it with fewer visits than The Absolute Sound.

 

I expected this when the discussions turned to high resolution v CD quality but it is something we need to work through as a community together not separately.

 

As for the subjective / objective debate is has always been my opinion that you need both. I can dance to any tune  but my subjective comments start at how will it play Pet Sounds and only get harder as I go down my reference albums and recordings.

 

Back to regularly scheduled programing.

You need to be careful with analytics. I can show you direct data that we had 658,000 unique visitors last month. Our biggest month ever. If you’re using the “best guess” method used by third parties, it’s just that. A best guess. When we switched domain names those stats got even further off.