Vox Loop Music Locker - Unlimited & Lossless

Chris,

I can't find what the storage limitations are, nor the sample rates allowed. I see this as a nice luxury when, say, travelling. on vacation and wanting to play MUCH more than what is on my portable IOS device (iphone or ipad). Maybe that's a problem already solved elsewhere?

I want to ask a much broader question (and expose my portable music inexperience; I listen very seldom to my iphone): is there a solution for local IOS streaming or NAS access (say up in bedroom on treadmill and want access to more of my stored music, via iphone, than is stored on my 32GB iphone)? I feel like it's a simple solution, but can't seem to get my mind around it.

Chris,

I can't find what the storage limitations are, nor the sample rates allowed. I see this as a nice luxury when, say, travelling. on vacation and wanting to play MUCH more than what is on my portable IOS device (iphone or ipad). Maybe that's a problem already solved elsewhere?

 

I want to ask a much broader question (and expose my portable music inexperience; I listen very seldom to my iphone): is there a solution for local IOS streaming or NAS access (say up in bedroom on treadmill and want access to more of my stored music, via iphone, than is stored on my 32GB iphone)? I feel like it's a simple solution, but can't seem to get my mind around it.

Hi Ted - Storage is unlimited. I'm uploading music right now. I will let you know about sample rates.

If you want to stream to your iOS device from within your house just use JRemote and select This Device. It will stream right to you lossless.

Hmmm. This is interesting. Makes one wonder what Apple will be announcing in June re their re-launch of Beats.

Does it upload any better/faster than the Amazon Cloud drive service?

I want to ask a much broader question (and expose my portable music inexperience; I listen very seldom to my iphone): is there a solution for local IOS streaming or NAS access (say up in bedroom on treadmill and want access to more of my stored music, via iphone, than is stored on my 32GB iphone)? I feel like it's a simple solution, but can't seem to get my mind around it.

What NAS do you have?

Just tested high resolution and it works. See the update in the article.

What NAS do you have?

Synology DS1513+ and DX513

Thanks, Chris. Really appreciating your recent articles and testing of these services.

If the iOS devices are not downsampling this could be another interesting alternative to the Aries if combined with the camera connection kit.

Synology DS1513+ and DX513

You can use AudioStation and DSAudio to stream on your iphone. Very nice turnkey solution. You can even download to your iPhone for offline listening (planes, trains and automobiles).

Native Sample Rate

Hi Chris. I have not iPhone 6 yet, but I have tested the previous iPhones 3, 3s, 4, 4s, 5 and 5s. With later iOS they can easily play back natively and bit true PCM192 or DSD64 via CCK to an external DAC yes, but not through the internal DAC, that is limited to 48k and 24 Bit. Are you sure the app doesn't just show the sample rate of the source file? With some apps like Onkyo HF Player or Flac Player you can distinguish between the sample rate of the source file and the sample rate of the output, so I can clearly see that the 192kHz files, does play 192k with external DACs, but is sample rate converted to 48k, when played through the internal DAC. Maybe this is different with the iPhone 6, but I am not aware of.

Best Regards

Juergen

Native Sample Rate

 

Hi Chris. I have not iPhone 6 yet, but I have tested the previous iPhones 3, 3s, 4, 4s, 5 and 5s. With later iOS they can easily play back natively and bit true PCM192 or DSD64 via CCK to an external DAC yes, but not through the internal DAC, that is limited to 48k and 24 Bit. Are you sure the app doesn't just show the sample rate of the source file? With some apps like Onkyo HF Player or Flac Player you can distinguish between the sample rate of the source file and the sample rate of the output, so I can clearly see that the 192kHz files, does play 192k with external DACs, but is sample rate converted to 48k, when played through the internal DAC. Maybe this is different with the iPhone 6, but I am not aware of.

 

Best Regards

Juergen

Hi Juergen - I can't tell what's going on. My guess is it's be resampled but I really can't tell.

According to the Coppertino guys the iPhone is hardware resampling anything over 24 but / 48 kHz.

According to the Coppertino guys the iPhone is hardware resampling anything over 24 but / 48 kHz.

I went ahead and got the email invitation from Coppertino, but the apps aren't really working. In my case, the desktop app doesn't see iTunes and based on the numerous complaints in their site forum going back several versions, this is obviously an ongoing issue they have not solved.

I went ahead and got the email invitation from Coppertino, but the apps aren't really working. In my case, the desktop app doesn't see iTunes and based on the numerous complaints in their site forum going back several versions, this is obviously an ongoing issue they have not solved.

Did you download the desktop version from the beta site, not the Coppertino site?

Did you download the desktop version from the beta site, not the Coppertino site?

Not sure, to be honest. I just clicked the link in the email invite I received. Which is the preferred site/version?

Not sure, to be honest. I just clicked the link in the email invite I received. Which is the preferred site/version?

The beta version is required to log into Loop. Do you have the Loop login in the preferences?

The beta version is required to log into Loop. Do you have the Loop login in the preferences?

The problem is with the Vox desktop application for Mac. It either hangs on start up or can't find iTunes. So I'm unable to upload any music to even test the iPhone app.

I'll remove everything and start over, but as I said, their support forum is full of similar complaints going back several versions.

Not Windows ready, and while looking around to see if or when that would be the case, I found a lot of posts about how its reliance on iTunes means that FLAC is a bit of a workaround; more than one import process. At that point, it became hard to look at Vox since I've currently got streaming from my JRiver music server at home, can download and/or stream from the road. I had hopes, since the only thing I use my server for is music - JRiver is complex enough (because of all the things it can do) that my wife shies away from it. The VOX user interface is lovely and clean. I also hoped that if it was going to depend so heavily on iTunes, it would have the FLAC integration be seamless. Guess I'll hang out and watch it develop.

Not Windows ready, and while looking around to see if or when that would be the case, I found a lot of posts about how its reliance on iTunes means that FLAC is a bit of a workaround; more than one import process. At that point, it became hard to look at Vox since I've currently got streaming from my JRiver music server at home, can download and/or stream from the road. I had hopes, since the only thing I use my server for is music - JRiver is complex enough (because of all the things it can do) that my wife shies away from it. The VOX user interface is lovely and clean. I also hoped that if it was going to depend so heavily on iTunes, it would have the FLAC integration be seamless. Guess I'll hang out and watch it develop.

What do you mean by its FLAC integration isn't seamless? It plays FLAC files no problem and I don't have it integrated with iTunes at all.

Vox Help responded and instructed me to uninstall the desktop app using AppCleaner and then redownloading and installing from a link they provided.

The new version still didn't load iTunes.

Then Vox Help instructed me to load iTunes from WITHIN Vox preferences and this worked.

Now if I could just figure out how to upload music to I'm synced with my phone!

Vox Help responded and instructed me to uninstall the desktop app using AppCleaner and then redownloading and installing from a link they provided.

 

The new version still didn't load iTunes.

 

Then Vox Help instructed me to load iTunes from WITHIN Vox preferences and this worked.

 

Now if I could just figure out how to upload music to I'm synced with my phone!

Click ont he little up arrow to upload music. See attached screenshot.

Vox Help responded and instructed me to uninstall the desktop app using AppCleaner and then redownloading and installing from a link they provided.

 

The new version still didn't load iTunes.

 

Then Vox Help instructed me to load iTunes from WITHIN Vox preferences and this worked.

 

Now if I could just figure out how to upload music to I'm synced with my phone!

It appears that the beta version of the desktop app with Loop is the one that couldn't find iTunes. So in reverting to the non-beta version that works, I can't use Loop yet.

My version doesn't have the little arrow. See screenshot.

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Hi Chris!!!

you don't know me but I have read a lot of stuff that you have posted!!! Thank you, I signed up a while ago but never been active with the account, I just got Loop Vox and in the beginning I had some issues but with the account not the installing or anything, I paid $4.99 but macrumors had a discount for $10 so I paid the whole year for $39.99....So far so good, as we speak everything is uploading to the cloud ( loop). one thing though, I had VOX before many moons ago, but in order for the loop to work you have to download the new .dmg again and just follow prompts!!!

Thank you for everything you give the the CA community members!

Cheers

Carlos Montenegro from the Sunshine State! ( Miami)

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Chris, Thank you for alerting us of this new service.

I am a bit of an apple fan boy ... though their is no way I would let iTunes Match downgrade my carefully ripped CD library to MP3 quality and pay apple for the privilege.

So this VOX like a great alternative. It will be nice to be able to access all of my ripped music just from an iDevice without it being stored there (Tidal offline content is eating up my iDevice storage space instead I have subscribed for a year.

I did have a problem with the Loop function of VOX ... it did not appear in the VOX Mac app.

I initially downloaded from Apples Mac App store ... and Loop did not appear in Vox settings, so I could not sign in ... or upload music. I downloaded the DMG from the VOX website and installed ... then the Loop functionality was visible and able to be enabled. All good.