The State of Streaming Audio - Session Video

We could perhaps regret the lack of  debate and interaction as each participant seems to  be going on with their own prepared pitch. But fine effort nonetheless. 

9 minutes ago, hopkins said:

We could perhaps regret the lack of  debate and interaction as each participant seems to  be going on with their own prepared pitch. But fine effort nonetheless. 

You could debate anything.

40 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

You could debate anything.

I don't know what that is supposed to mean, I'm just giving my honest opinion after having spend 40 minutes watching this. It would have been more interesting, I think, to have less participants, and a host who challenges the participants because here it was just one sales pitch after another (but don't take it personally because your comments were more interesting). 

2 minutes ago, hopkins said:

 

I don't know what that is supposed to mean, I'm just giving my honest opinion after having spend 40 minutes watching this. It would have been more interesting, I think, to have less participants, and a host who challenges the participants because here it was just one sales pitch after another (but don't take it personally because your comments were more interesting).

No worries, I don't take anything personally. 

I'm just going by your previous comments on the forum. You seem eager to debate or disparage items as trivial as the fact that I am getting excited about classical music because I'm listening in Atmos. Your comment about, "a host who challenges the participants" is right inline with what you like. Perhaps this session just wasn't aimed at you. 

I talked with a few people after the session, who thought it was helpful. 

4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

 

No worries, I don't take anything personally. 

 

I'm just going by your previous comments on the forum. You seem eager to debate or disparage items as trivial as the fact that I am getting excited about classical music because I'm listening in Atmos. Your comment about, "a host who challenges the participants" is right inline with what you like. Perhaps this session just wasn't aimed at you. 

 

I talked with a few people after the session, who thought it was helpful. 

 

 

 

I am sure some people did find it useful, but does that mean there is no room for improvement? 

As for the rest of your comments, which are completely off topic, there is indeed nothing wrong with being excited about classical music, more power to you, I apologize for the snide comment I made. 

I thought it to be generally well done. At these events, I really do not expect to see them set up in a debate style that can lead to conflict. The point is to provide info leading to sales opportunities down the road. With that many participants, I would have liked to see a longer Q and A session where more of that back and forth would have been possible. To have an panel like Hopkins prefers, you would have to have at most, 3 folks and a moderator. This one was too big and too varied for that. Maybe at CAF.

It's a bummer the Smyth Realiser was not mentioned as an alternate to Apple headphones for spatial audio. While I do agree that Atmos over (Apple) headphones is a little under whelming... Experiencing Atmos over headphones from the Smyths Realiser is exceptional! Add a tactile transducer to your setup... And you will be blown away! It's that good.

16 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I’d love to review a Realiser with my SR1a headphones. 

I might be able to make that possible I'll send you a PM.

BTW... If you haven't tried it yet, you must play Tsuyoshi Yamamoto Trio - Midnight Sugar using the Auromatic upmixer.

You can thank me me later.

Did I hear correctly that HiFi ROSE offers onboard Apple Music as in not just AirPlay?

Segment begins just before Jon Derda's remark.

36 minutes ago, loop7 said:

Did I hear correctly that HiFi ROSE offers onboard Apple Music as in not just AirPlay?

 

Segment begins just before Jon Derda's remark.

 

 

It’s lossy though. The lossy API can be implemented by almost anyone. 

It's nice that the topic of streaming got such attention, but I was sad to hear no mention of how difficult it is to get streamed Atmos translated into an audiophile signal.
Processors generally just suck unless you go into 5 figures - and there is absolutely no justification for that price.
Perhaps a fitting task for Roon?

On 8/31/2022 at 8:33 PM, DigiPete said:

Processors generally just suck unless you go into 5 figures - and there is absolutely no justification for that price.

which implies it would be easy to make a profitable one for much less. If so, why aren't there any below that price? 

5 hours ago, bbosler said:

 

which implies it would be easy to make a profitable one for much less. If so, why aren't there any below that price? 

 

 

 

Probably because the market is way too small for S/PDIF / AES output AVR's to even be considered.
But honestly, the BOM cost of an I2S to AES board would not be more than the one with DAC chips (given sufficient production numbers).

My cost conscious & current choices are: hack an AVR or get a Smyth Realiser A16.
Hmmm . . an A16 with AES/EBU including magic headphone surround for late enjoyment for less than €/$5k . . . 

6 hours ago, DigiPete said:

Probably because the market is way too small for S/PDIF / AES output AVR's to even be considered.
But honestly, the BOM cost of an I2S to AES board would not be more than the one with DAC chips (given sufficient production numbers).

My cost conscious & current choices are: hack an AVR or get a Smyth Realiser A16.
Hmmm . . an A16 with AES/EBU including magic headphone surround for late enjoyment for less than €/$5k . . . 

I’m still dying to get one of these - https://www.arvus.com/atmos-h2-4d.html

On 9/17/2022 at 12:02 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

I’m still dying to get one of these - https://www.arvus.com/atmos-h2-4d.html

I've seen this Arvus discussed before, don't remember if it was here or another forum.

But..is this an existing product, or is it waporware..?

Who has seen one? Who has used one..??

And when you read the "About"-section on the website...well..this guy is Leonardo DaVinci, Elon Musk, Trump, Albert Einstein all in one..

Yes, maybe that was mean of me and I take it all back when I see the product..🙂

So, is Arvus a company that will deliver..? Who has seen/used their previous products..??

@Kal Rubinson, I seem to recall U mentioned Arvus somewhere..? Have any info..??

30 minutes ago, retro said:

I've seen this Arvus discussed before, don't remember if it was here or another forum.

But..is this an existing product, or is it waporware..?

Who has seen one? Who has used one..??

And when you read the "About"-section on the website...well..this guy is Leonardo DaVinci, Elon Musk, Trump, Albert Einstein all in one..

Yes, maybe that was mean of me and I take it all back when I see the product..🙂

 

So, is Arvus a company that will deliver..? Who has seen/used their previous products..??

@Kal Rubinson, I seem to recall U mentioned Arvus somewhere..? Have any info..??

I’ve seen other Arvus products in mixing and mastering studios.